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Re: 44 Tonner
« Reply #210 on: May 23, 2006, 08:54:17 PM »
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Thanks , It will pull 10 cars , but it likes 8 much better . I would have been happy with 4 .
Richie, Is that with one or two traction tires fitted ? I have 2 traction tires fitted and am getting around that performance. It'll also haul one Kato Stack unit - it won't haul two!

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Re: 44 Tonner
« Reply #211 on: May 23, 2006, 09:41:15 PM »
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I've been quietly cleaning up the first of 3 shells, starting with the worst one, figure I'd make the most mistakes on the shell that was in the worst shape. I'm waiting on the gross of 000-120 screws I've ordered to show up, since they were $2 more than getting just 25 of them from smallparts.com ($28 vs $30). Hopefully these will be small enough to pass as springs on the trucks since the 'standard' MT 00-90 screw is way too big. I was thinking about trying to get some 0000-160 ultra tiny watchmaker screws but they're just way too expensive (about $5 each in small quantities).

I'll post a pic of them next to a MT 00-90 for comparison when they're here along with my trucks. If they work out to be small enough, I'll gladly send off a bunch to other folks. Doing the math, assuming each screw can only do 1 spring, you'd need 16 (2 pair each truck), plus $0.52 (1 oz with stuff inside postage) yields 3.80, so say $4 for 17 screws, that way you have an extra  ;)

There's always the possibility that I'll try my hand at casting them should they come out ok, but I've never done that before.

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Re: 44 Tonner
« Reply #212 on: May 23, 2006, 11:04:18 PM »
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Thats with only 1 traction tire .


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Re: 44 Tonner
« Reply #213 on: May 24, 2006, 12:26:29 AM »
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A word of advice . After I did the rough painting I noticed something . On the UP unit there is a upper red stripe whose lower edge is at the upper edge of the doors on the hoods . When that stripe is brought around the cab there should be some window bars below it in yellow . The way my casting was , there would be the red stripe just under the window with the window NOT dissecting it . I increased my windows downward so the stripe is dissected and not unbroken . Here is a shot from Ed Austin's fine book Union Pacific Diesels in color Volume One 1934-1959 page 34 to show what I mean , along with my modified window shell .


Here is the before shot that brought my attention to the window depth problem .
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Re: 44 Tonner
« Reply #214 on: May 24, 2006, 08:09:15 AM »
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I think you're right Richie.  Something didn't look quite right about the cab and I couldn't put my finger on it but I think that's it.

BTW, what is "DS" in front if "DS 1399".... "Diesel Switcher????"


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Re: 44 Tonner
« Reply #215 on: May 24, 2006, 09:14:37 AM »
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DS means Diesel Switcher , after 1953 it was removed as a prefix from the diesels . The slogans were changed to Dependable Transportation and renumbered into MoW about 1959 . I don't have any shots of it between 1953 and 1959 though , and this unit may have not had the DS removed . I am undecided as to include the DS or not . I guess I will decide when the decals are in a puddle of water . 

Of other note , On UP diesels of this era , the word Union Pacific is on the long hood with the number below it . On this unit when looking at a side view the name and number is always on the right no matter if your looking at the " Serves All The West " side or " Road Of The Streamliners "  side . I have books that show this .
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Re: Tungsten Putty
« Reply #216 on: May 24, 2006, 09:07:38 PM »
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Here’s another source for Tungsten Putty if you can’t find it locally.  It’s a Pinewood Derby hobby shop and the product is called “Wutty”. (I suppose the “W” is from the chemical symbol for tungsten.)

http://www.winderby.com/m05_040829.html

They provided extremely fast service.  I ordered it at 2:00 PM on Friday the 19th and it arrived today, the 21st.  It’s a little cheaper at $4.95 for a 1oz. package.  The blob of putty in the photo is 1” wide, weighs exactly 1.0 oz. and is extremely pliable.

I sent them an email inquiring about this stuff. They want to do a priority mail shipment (ie over $9 for 1 oz of putty) which begs the question, is anyone interested in doing a group buy and getting your single oz of this shipped 1st class? Seems like it'd save a buck or two if at least 3 or 4 folks got together on it.

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Re: 44 Tonner
« Reply #217 on: May 24, 2006, 09:10:27 PM »
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First, the new sideframes are made by Chris333, and they look great.

My latest:





Richie, your handrails look great.  Oh, and sorry guys, I noticed the high windows last week when I painted the black on my MILW Rd model...the windows should be lowered to the tops of the doors...I should have said something. :-[

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Re: 44 Tonner
« Reply #218 on: May 24, 2006, 09:19:31 PM »
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Hi Tom, How's your pick up system working ? - just wondering

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Re: 44 Tonner
« Reply #219 on: May 24, 2006, 11:07:19 PM »
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Tom , that looks great . I should have sprayed mine , but my paint booth/table downstairs has got 3 feet of tools on it . Chris's truck are a winner . I will use them on my next unit .
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Re: 44 Tonner
« Reply #220 on: May 24, 2006, 11:29:44 PM »
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Hi Tom, How's your pick up system working ? - just wondering

very crapily.  but only 1/2 of it is wired now.

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Re: 44 Tonner
« Reply #221 on: May 26, 2006, 12:13:58 AM »
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Well , I am calling this done . I hope my next Wyoming & La Grange one will be a bit better . I think a will take a week or so off till I dive into it . My next one will have Chris's better sideframes , so it have to be better . It will be much easier to paint and decal as well .




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Re: 44 Tonner
« Reply #222 on: May 26, 2006, 01:40:44 AM »
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...very nice Richie
(and now, eBay it and you'll get mucho dinero for it, bet ?)

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Re: 44 Tonner
« Reply #223 on: June 03, 2006, 10:26:27 PM »
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I have now joined the ranks of the 44 club. I just recived my ex-JnJ shell in the mail. It looks very nice, but there are some flash issues. I plan on completly rebuilding the side windows. I like Tom's idea of rebuilding the chassis, but i'll probably try a different pickup route. Who has good sideframe castings?
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Re: 44 Tonner
« Reply #224 on: June 03, 2006, 11:14:53 PM »
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I have now joined the ranks of the 44 club. I just recived my ex-JnJ shell in the mail. It looks very nice, but there are some flash issues. I plan on completly rebuilding the side windows. I like Tom's idea of rebuilding the chassis, but i'll probably try a different pickup route. Who has good sideframe castings?

I have an extra set from Chris I will give ya . Send me your address .


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