Trix decoder English manual

[woodone]

Looking for some decoder information on a decoder that is in a Trix/Mintrix locomotive (16234)
The decoder I think is an ESU, but not sure.the manual that came with the locomotive is written in German.
Having problems with the lights/can’t get the to come on. Loco does run forward & reverse- there is sound too!
Using a NCE Power Cab. 

[peteski]

Oh, one of those . . . no English manual available.
I had the toughest time trying to remap some functions on a Minitrix European sound-equipped N Scale loco.  I wanted F8 to mute the sound.  It is not clear who makes their decoders. See https://www.therailwire.net/forum/index.php?topic=46007.0  for a related discussion.  Unfortunately not much help there either, but it will give you an idea of what you are dealing with.

[RBrodzinsky]

Did you try using DecoderPro to identify it?

[woodone]

Rick,
My Power Cab ID’s it has #131 which is Trix.
But with other decoder manufactures making decoders for other locomotive manufactures , to there specks , then calling them there own, who knows?
I personally think this is wrong but you see it all the time.
SoundTraxx makes some decoders for other locomotive manufactures for the loco mfg. specks then calling it there own when you ID it.
Same with NCE, Lenz  & possible others.
BWDIK

[woodone]

Sorry Rick, I forgot to give you a real answer to your question.
No , I have not done that.
I will give that a try this afternoon.
Thanks for the reminder.

[Point353]

Looking for some decoder information on a decoder that is in a Trix/Mintrix locomotive (16234)

You can download the manual (which has a section in English) from this page: https://www.trix.de/en/products/details/article/16234/

[peteski]

You can download the manual (which has a section in English) from this page: https://www.trix.de/en/products/details/article/16234/

Been there, done that.  It is a very basic rudimentary info manual.  Nothing advanced (like function remapping or other similar things) are covered in there.  Not even how to reset a decoder.  The complete manual only comes in German. At least that was the case when I looked for one.

The decoder will likely identify itself as Trix or Marklin. But unless there is a profile for it in DecoderPro, that won't be helpful.

[woodone]

I did the JMRI PROGRAMER. It identified the decoder has a Trix, with 3 check drops- one a Trix, one a version 1 and a HO version.
I tried all three but I could only get the programmer to open with the version 1.
Not too much there, about all I could do was set the address, use speed table or use a slider to set speed.
So there was very little help there.
 

[Point353]

Been there, done that.  It is a very basic rudimentary info manual.  Nothing advanced (like function remapping or other similar things) are covered in there. 

Turning on the headlight is an advanced function?

[woodone]

Well Turing on a H/L is not an advanced thing, but mapping might be.
F-8 is turning on/off cab chatter- so who knows where the light function might be hidden?

[RBrodzinsky]

I did the JMRI PROGRAMER. It identified the decoder has a Trix, with 3 check drops- one a Trix, one a version 1 and a HO version.
I tried all three but I could only get the programmer to open with the version 1.
Not too much there, about all I could do was set the address, use speed table or use a slider to set speed.
So there was very little help there.

Oh well, worth a shot.

[peteski]

Well Turing on a H/L is not an advanced thing, but mapping might be.
F-8 is turning on/off cab chatter- so who knows where the light function might be hidden?

I assumed that the manual Point353 pointed you to was the same (multilingual) one as included with the model.  It does show that F0 controls the headlights.  I would still try decoder reset (if we could figure out how to do that).

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It also  shows that CV52 is "dimming of lights" with range of 0-31 (factory setting is 31).

[peteski]

Turning on the headlight is an advanced function?

Well no, but being able to do a decoder reset would be useful to try.

[Point353]

It was suggested on another forum that the Trix decoders are supplied by Doehler & Haass.
Here's a link to a decoder manual from their site: https://doehler-haass.de/cms/media/pdf/DH05C_DH10C_DH16A_en.pdf

[peteski]

It was suggested on another forum that the Trix decoders are supplied by Doehler & Haass.
Here's a link to a decoder manual from their site: https://doehler-haass.de/cms/media/pdf/DH05C_DH10C_DH16A_en.pdf

That looks promising as CV53 seems the same in both manuals.  Cool!
And writing 8 to CV8 is factory reset.  Worth a try before trying other things.