BLI Announces Non-PRR USRA Heavy and Light Mikado

[peteski]

True, but its an F-ing joke that the Santa fe gets absolutely no announcements in regards to steam when UP, SP, NP, PRR, Milwaukee, D&RGW, and even the Clinchfield have one or MULTIPLE well running and detailed models under their belts.
For petes sakes, its the Santa fe. the railroad that sold n-scale in the beginning.

Drasko

Oh come on Drasko, just becuase you model ATSF, you think you are entitled to have every third model produced be ATSF prototype?  Hey, nobody makes Boston & Maine locos (like the coffin feedwater heater Berks), and you don't see me bitchin' that I get no satisfaction.

[Point353]

True, but its an F-ing joke that the Santa fe gets absolutely no announcements in regards to steam when UP, SP, NP, PRR, Milwaukee, D&RGW, and even the Clinchfield have one or MULTIPLE well running and detailed models under their belts.
For petes sakes, its the Santa fe. the railroad that sold n-scale in the beginning.

Even the PRR modelers could use a few Santa Fe steamers:

[bbussey]

True, but its an F-ing joke that the Santa fe gets absolutely no announcements in regards to steam when UP, SP, NP, PRR, Milwaukee, D&RGW, and even the Clinchfield have one or MULTIPLE well running and detailed models under their belts.
For petes sakes, its the Santa fe. the railroad that sold n-scale in the beginning.

Drasko

Then it’s fortunate, as you have shown previously, that you are talented enough to scratchbuild and kitbash ATSF steam models. 

[Mark5]

Hey, it seems odd to me that ATSF steam doesn't get more love too.

Hopefully, BLI will continue the pattern and other HO steamers will make it to N:

https://www.broadway-limited.com/paragon3atsf4-8-4northern.aspx

and maybe the Paragon ATSF 2-10-2/2-10-4.

Mark 

[SF Chief]

How difficult would it be to turn one of these into a passable B&O Q4? Start with the USRA Light, I suppose.  Get the appropriate Bachmann tender (if it could be found), put on a high headlight. How close would that be?  Rick

[jdcolombo]

Hey, it seems odd to me that ATSF steam doesn't get more love too.

Hopefully, BLI will continue the pattern and other HO steamers will make it to N:

https://www.broadway-limited.com/paragon3atsf4-8-4northern.aspx

and maybe the Paragon ATSF 2-10-2/2-10-4.

Mark 

It seems odd to me that no one has shown any interest in producing a 2-10-4.  In addition to the ATSF, other western roads (CB&Q, Texas & Pacific, KCS) used the "Texas" type and that wheel arrangement was also used both by the C&O and the Pennsy (essentially a copy of the C&O).  While the C&O T1 and Pennsy J1 had smaller drivers than the ATSF version, once you had a mechanism, anything is possible . . .

John C.

[Maletrain]

How difficult would it be to turn one of these into a passable B&O Q4? Start with the USRA Light, I suppose.  Get the appropriate Bachmann tender (if it could be found), put on a high headlight. How close would that be?  Rick

Well, it would need a few more details changed, such as the location of the safety valves, the brakeman's seat in an extended cab, and a bell to mount back between the domes all come to mind.  Plus, there really isn't an RTR Vanderbilt tender that is both the correct length and the correct diameter, not to mention the extended coal boards. But, if the BLI version runs well and pulls well, it would be a better start on a Q-4 than the Model Power version.

[draskouasshat]

Oh come on Drasko, just becuase you model ATSF, you think you are entitled to have every third model produced be ATSF prototype?  Hey, nobody makes Boston & Maine locos (like the coffin feedwater heater Berks), and you don't see me bitchin' that I get no satisfaction.

seriously Pete? Don't give me that crap. I seriously hope youre joking when you know damned well that the PRR modelers were 100 times worse when it comes to griping about steam models. hell im just following suit because it seemed to have worked.
As for your B&M berk, you could try making one for your scarcely modeled B&M, at least you have a mechanism and 95% of the boiler complete on 3? RTR models of the Berk...……………………………..


Drasko

[Mark5]

Wow, those B&M berks are one different animal! 

http://www.llarson.com/steam/schenzinger/images/NA34.jpg

[Doug W]

Santa fe gets absolutely no announcements in regards to steam when UP, SP, NP, PRR, Milwaukee, D&RGW, and even the Clinchfield have one or MULTIPLE well running and detailed models

The Clinchfield is only on the list because it bought the six ex-D&RGW UP-designed Challengers. The E-3s - in CRR parlance - didn't do that well and only lasted six years.

None of Clinchfield's other steamers have been produced in N, although a number would be good candidates. The railroad's dozen Alco E-1 and E-2 4-6-6-4s lasted longer than the E-3s, and were virtually identical to the Delaware & Hudson J-95 class, of which 40 were built. Its 20 L-2 and L-3 2-8-8-2s were based on the standard USRA N&W Y-2 Mallet-based design.

Need multiple road names to have a chance of being produced in N. Even then, it's all about luck.

Doug

[strummer]

Even the PRR modelers could use a few Santa Fe steamers:

Good Lord; look at the size of that thing... 

I know there were many bigger locomotives, but for whatever reason these 2-10-4s always appear to be un-Godly huge...

Mark in Oregon

[draskouasshat]

The Clinchfield is only on the list because it bought the six ex-D&RGW UP-designed Challengers. The E-3s - in CRR parlance - didn't do that well and only lasted six years.

None of Clinchfield's other steamers have been produced in N, although a number would be good candidates. The railroad's dozen Alco E-1 and E-2 4-6-6-4s lasted longer than the E-3s, and were virtually identical to the Delaware & Hudson J-95 class, of which 40 were built. Its 20 L-2 and L-3 2-8-8-2s were based on the standard USRA N&W Y-2 Mallet-based design.

Need multiple road names to have a chance of being produced in N. Even then, it's all about luck.


Doug

yet here they are on the list lol. the clinch STILL has more RTR models of well detailed steam than the Santa fe……………………………...

[peteski]

seriously Pete? Don't give me that crap. I seriously hope youre joking when you know damned well that the PRR modelers were 100 times worse when it comes to griping about steam models. hell im just following suit because it seemed to have worked.
As for your B&M berk, you could try making one for your scarcely modeled B&M, at least you have a mechanism and 95% of the boiler complete on 3? RTR models of the Berk...……………………………..

Drasko

I was half-joking.  But seriously, if you think that a single-person loudly bitching on the Railwire about not getting any ATSF love will make a model manufacturer make ATSF engine, I have a bridge in Poland to sell you.    As for the B&M Berk, yes, I can cobble one up, but why not bitch loudly to get a ready-to-run model produced?    I know, it will never happen.

[garethashenden]

Wow, those B&M berks are one different animal! 

http://www.llarson.com/steam/schenzinger/images/NA34.jpg

Aren’t they pretty?

[draskouasshat]

I was half-joking.  But seriously, if you think that a single-person loudly bitching on the Railwire about not getting any ATSF love will make a model manufacturer make ATSF engine, I have a bridge in Poland to sell you.    As for the B&M Berk, yes, I can cobble one up, but why not bitch loudly to get a ready-to-run model produced?    I know, it will never happen.

Seemed to work for the few I want a K4 whiners so ill keep pushing forward.