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Kato SD40-2 shell question
« on: June 07, 2013, 12:02:06 PM »
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Today I ordered four Kato mid production SD40-2's. My future plan for three of these is to get the early version SD40-2 and put these shells on them for some MKT SD40-2's The fourth one I will use as a kitbash for the DEEX SD40's I am working.

So my question is this. I do not yet have any early version SD40-2's (I bought two today on EBAY). The mid production shell on the left side (you can see it in the photo linkhttp://www.katousa.com/images/921465.jpg) has a notch cut up along the bottom of the shell from behind the cab to the end of the blower duct. Does the early version have this same notch?

I know the mid production version has the battery boxes and cab as one part and the early one has the battery box as part of the walkway like the SD40 model. I'll use the cab from the early version and put it on mid production shell. It appears the mid production shell sits on top of the blower duct where the for instance on the SD40 the shell fits inside the blower duct on the left side. What I really want to know is if the mid production SD40-2 shell fits the same as the early version SD40-2 shell.

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Re: Kato SD40-2 shell question
« Reply #1 on: June 07, 2013, 02:11:32 PM »
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The early does not have the notch at the blower duct.

As for the shell early shell fitting inside the mid pro ones, I'm not too sure, however I do know an SD45 shell will fit on a mid pro mech and walkway.

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Re: Kato SD40-2 shell question
« Reply #2 on: June 07, 2013, 05:01:41 PM »
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Thanks for the reply.

I guess I'll see for sure next week.

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Re: Kato SD40-2 shell question
« Reply #3 on: June 08, 2013, 03:18:32 PM »
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Today I ordered four Kato mid production SD40-2's. My future plan for three of these is to get the early version SD40-2 and put these shells on them for some MKT SD40-2's

It's not gonna work.  The shells and mechs are too different from each other.  Neither shell can go on the mech for the other.  Not without some fairly severe modifications, anyway.

Sorry to the bearer of bad news.
« Last Edit: June 08, 2013, 03:22:00 PM by jagged ben »

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Re: Kato SD40-2 shell question
« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2013, 04:01:25 PM »
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It's not gonna work.  The shells and mechs are too different from each other.  Neither shell can go on the mech for the other.  Not without some fairly severe modifications, anyway.

Sorry to the bearer of bad news.

No need to be sorry. Because your bad news actually turned into good news.

Just an update, I did get it to work and very easily. The shell fits snug and all is in place as it should be. I now have a mid production shell on an early drive and walkway/sill. Now I can do the MKT SD40-2's.

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Re: Kato SD40-2 shell question
« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2013, 07:10:32 PM »
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You must have at least taken out the ditchlight pipes?

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Re: Kato SD40-2 shell question
« Reply #6 on: June 15, 2013, 07:27:21 PM »
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You must have at least taken out the ditchlight pipes?

I did not use the deck.  Started with early SD40-2. Removed the shell and replaced it with a mid production SD40-2 she'll. used the original early production cab.  So ONLY the shell was replaced.

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Re: Kato SD40-2 shell question
« Reply #7 on: June 15, 2013, 07:51:31 PM »
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I see.  IOW, you only replaced the hood piece.  Nice to know this can be done. 

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Re: Kato SD40-2 shell question
« Reply #8 on: June 16, 2013, 12:11:56 AM »
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Snoots also use the same handrails and deck/frame as the earlies.  So you could use a snoot shell for a mid production unit.

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Re: Kato SD40-2 shell question
« Reply #9 on: June 16, 2013, 12:23:19 AM »
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Snoots also use the same handrails and deck/frame as the earlies.  So you could use a snoot shell for a mid production unit.

I see one advantage to that. You do nto have to buy an undec mid production shell. BUT there would be a lot of work involved cutting the snoot nose off, shortening it properly and then reattaching it to the shell. With Kato using ABS plastic for their shells, glueing is not a fun task.

I do see your point though.

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Re: Kato SD40-2 shell question
« Reply #10 on: June 16, 2013, 11:24:03 AM »
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I see one advantage to that. You do nto have to buy an undec mid production shell. BUT there would be a lot of work involved cutting the snoot nose off, shortening it properly and then reattaching it to the shell.
Brian

Just use the nose from another EMD... I used the SD50/60 nose (after filing off the toilet hatch) for a brakewheel 88" nose I needed for an N&W unit.

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Re: Kato SD40-2 shell question
« Reply #11 on: June 16, 2013, 02:44:36 PM »
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Just use the nose from another EMD... I used the SD50/60 nose (after filing off the toilet hatch) for a brakewheel 88" nose I needed for an N&W unit.

Or a GP35 nose if you need an 81' nose with ratchet brake

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Re: Kato SD40-2 shell question
« Reply #12 on: June 16, 2013, 07:29:24 PM »
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The GP35 has a different type of walkway light at the base betweeb the sander cleanout doors.

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Re: Kato SD40-2 shell question
« Reply #13 on: June 17, 2013, 12:03:40 AM »
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The GP35 has a different type of walkway light at the base betweeb the sander cleanout doors.

Brian

Brian, if that is the case, I can't see/notice it.  I just used a bunch of GP35 noses on my SD40-2s that I needed mid production style radiators and ratchet handbrakes.  Being an Atlas shell is less than $3 and a Kato is $35.

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Re: Kato SD40-2 shell question
« Reply #14 on: June 17, 2013, 01:02:21 AM »
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Going just a bit far with the rivet counting there Brian.