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Kato made a "Huge" Mistake
« on: January 18, 2013, 05:36:14 PM »
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                 :|I was going to post this several weeks ago,but I'am just getting around to it today.1-18-13.After re-reading my copy of the book "Burlington Route Streamlined Observation Cars" by Jonathan J. Boyle,Sr. (an obscure book I will admit),on page 17 we come to the section covering the four parlor diner observation cars ordered for the "General Pershing","Silver Streak",and "AK-Sar-Ben' Zephyrs.We learn that these cars all had NON LIGHTED TAIL SIGNS. Yes that is correct NON LIIGHTED. The "Silver Star" built for the GPZ featured the General's signature engraved on a (square) metal tail sign,much like the earlier articulated 9903 "Mark Twain Zephyr" featured the author's signature on its tail sign also not lighted."Silver Spirit" now at the Museum Of Transport in St. Louis originally had a non lighted sign that read simply:"SIilver Streak". The other two cars "Silver Hours" used on"Sam Huston Zephyr" and "Silver Hours' used as a general service car had generic "Burlington Route" non lighted tail signs. The other two cars eventually recieved like tail signs, and all had rear diaphrams fitted so they could run mid train if needed. While I do think the lighted tail sign which Kato also used on the first run of these cars is cool it is not correct for Burlington or the Silver Streak Zephyr. Nate Goodman (Nato)."Burlington Know-it all?" Salt Lake, Utah.

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Re: Kato made a "Huge" Mistake
« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2013, 06:09:49 PM »
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TO THE BARRICADES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! KATO HAS BESMERCHED THE CB&Q !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ok; I final found an opportunity to introduce a Les Miz reference, my job is done here !!!!!!!!!! :trollface:
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Re: Kato made a "Huge" Mistake
« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2013, 06:23:23 PM »
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 :RUEffinKiddingMe: Well, given that Kato used its already-existing and prototypically-correct Budd observation that already was equipped with an illuminated tailsign for the set ... it appears to me that it is much easier to remove lighting than to add it.
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Re: Kato made a "Huge" Mistake
« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2013, 06:28:00 PM »
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Oh now I wish they'd never introduced the set at all.  :facepalm:  Where are my wire cutters...
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Re: Kato made a "Huge" Mistake
« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2013, 06:52:49 PM »
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I'm not sure which is scarier: That I instantly recognized that as Les Miz, or that I happen to be listening to the score right now. :scared:

Back to the trains, good info and thanks for sharing.
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Re: Kato made a "Huge" Mistake
« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2013, 07:19:07 PM »
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Re: Kato made a "Huge" Mistake
« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2013, 07:26:55 PM »
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 :facepalm:

Second time today.
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Re: Kato made a "Huge" Mistake
« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2013, 07:28:38 PM »
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Railwaire is going a little too "Facebook" for my taste..............  :facepalm:

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Re: Kato made a "Huge" Mistake
« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2013, 07:50:09 PM »
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I'll tell ya - you a$$hats are a cruel bunch.

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Re: Kato made a "Huge" Mistake
« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2013, 07:51:12 PM »
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Do we really want to get into mistakes Kato has made?  :facepalm:

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Re: Kato made a "Huge" Mistake
« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2013, 08:22:52 PM »
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Can't we go back to talking about gun control, gay marriage, and abortion?
 :trollface:


But seriously, we strive for accuracy and knowledge. So Kato lit the rear end up. The prototype didn't light up. Now we know. You can do one of the following things:
1. Run your cars during the day or bright light conditions that you don't notice it.
2. Buy the set anyways (if its the only thing you don't like) and remove the lighting.
3. Thank Nato for sharing correct prototypical information, overreact to his perceived "rivet counting" in a humors fashion and fan the Flame Wars.

I say all this tongue- in cheek.
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Re: Kato made a "Huge" Mistake
« Reply #11 on: January 18, 2013, 08:32:21 PM »
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It pains me that I'm adding to the "touchy feely" part of this, but I'm a little confused by this thread.  Nato gave some good prototype info that would help those that would want to modify an existing product to more accurately model that prototype.  Picking nits at model inaccuracies is hardly anything new to this forum, and in fact discussing those issues for the benefit of those who want a more accurate model is something The RailWire is famous for.  Why are we on page two already with the number of on-topic posts countable on one hand?
« Last Edit: January 18, 2013, 08:35:45 PM by eric220 »
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Re: Kato made a "Huge" Mistake
« Reply #12 on: January 18, 2013, 08:35:30 PM »
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Eric's right... I was just "joshing".... the fact that NATO picked this up is kwel.... I'll bet no one at Kato did......
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Re: Kato made a "Huge" Mistake
« Reply #13 on: January 18, 2013, 08:38:33 PM »
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Face it, no one at Kato cares.

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Re: Kato made a "Huge" Mistake
« Reply #14 on: January 18, 2013, 08:41:02 PM »
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I wasn't joshing though.  One or two sentences without the shouting would have accomplished that, rather than an entire thesis.

It would have cost more to alter the design and eliminate the lighted drumhead than to leave it as is.  I'd rather pay less for the set and make the five-minute modification than the reverse.
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