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Re: PRR/Conrail Juniata Division Engineering Report
« Reply #570 on: August 11, 2012, 03:46:50 PM »
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I'd suggest entertaining the possibility of raising the elevation of the industry and siding to add more interest to that scene and make the industry; it might also make the building a little more imposing. Maybe add a low stone wall running along the side of the roadway so that the industry property can run right up against it.

Add a grade you mean?  I would also have to account for the loading doors that will be floating in space if I do that.

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Re: PRR/Conrail Juniata Division Engineering Report
« Reply #571 on: August 11, 2012, 03:53:07 PM »
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I'd suggest entertaining the possibility of raising the elevation of the industry and siding to add more interest to that scene and make the industry; it might also make the building a little more imposing.

Great suggestion!

You've got enough lead there to give the siding a little elevation.

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Re: PRR/Conrail Juniata Division Engineering Report
« Reply #572 on: August 11, 2012, 03:56:24 PM »
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Add a grade you mean?  I would also have to account for the loading doors that will be floating in space if I do that.

As I said, raise the industry and the siding. There should be enough of a run for a modest grade, starting at the switch and leveling off as it reaches the building.

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Re: PRR/Conrail Juniata Division Engineering Report
« Reply #573 on: August 11, 2012, 03:58:26 PM »
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As I said, raise the industry and the siding. There should be enough of a run for a modest grade, starting at the switch and leveling off as it reaches the building.


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Re: PRR/Conrail Juniata Division Engineering Report
« Reply #574 on: August 11, 2012, 04:02:14 PM »
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I don't know...  It seems like it would add unnecessary complication.  The industry already bumps up agains a retaining wall by the road.  By how much are you suggesting I raise the whole scene?

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Re: PRR/Conrail Juniata Division Engineering Report
« Reply #575 on: August 11, 2012, 04:17:37 PM »
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I don't know...  It seems like it would add unnecessary complication.  The industry already bumps up agains a retaining wall by the road.  By how much are you suggesting I raise the whole scene?

Like 1/4" or slightly higher. Not much.
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Re: PRR/Conrail Juniata Division Engineering Report
« Reply #576 on: August 11, 2012, 04:30:26 PM »
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For the coal / sand track on our Free-moN yard I raised it by gluing down two layers of cork roadbed and then sanded down to 0":





The grade starts soon after the coal dump cutout.
The length looks about the same as your siding, so could work.
But even 1/8" would make a difference, especially if you front the rise with a cool-looking wall (tricks the mind into thinking it's higher, like a mini-scenic divider).
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Re: PRR/Conrail Juniata Division Engineering Report
« Reply #577 on: August 11, 2012, 04:38:24 PM »
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I don't have cork on hand or an LHS that's very "L"...  I do have some foamcore board.  With foam glue, it should hold and not curl.

I cut the siding back to the switch and temporarily removed Spruce Tower and its attendant relay cases.



Found a brand-new tube of PL3000, and also found that you can peel the backing off of foamcore so you end up with just the WS-like roadbed stuff.

If I do this, I may have to kill the existing retaining wall along the road and replace it.  I have a Chooch flexible cut stone wall.

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Re: PRR/Conrail Juniata Division Engineering Report
« Reply #578 on: August 11, 2012, 04:47:59 PM »
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I don't have cork on hand or an LHS that's very "L"...  I do have some foamcore board.  With foam glue, it should hold and not curl.

That should work.

I used a wood shim from Home Depot to gain a little elevation.

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Re: PRR/Conrail Juniata Division Engineering Report
« Reply #579 on: August 11, 2012, 05:08:38 PM »
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Dave, do as DKS is saying here. I have learned to do what he says. Its right in the long run! :facepalm:

Yikes, I step away from my shop for a bit, and come back to find I'm being taken all serious like. It was just a suggestion--yikes, now I feel all important and stuff...  :trollface:

Maybe I'd better make some kind of disclaimer, like your mileage may very, just in case something bad happens...

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Re: PRR/Conrail Juniata Division Engineering Report
« Reply #580 on: August 11, 2012, 05:37:04 PM »
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This is raised with 2 pieces of de-papered foamcore board.  Any thoughts on the floating loading doors on the left?  Also, should I go higher, and if so, how should I treat the edge?  Another retaining wall above this or rip the old one out and make it one?


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Re: PRR/Conrail Juniata Division Engineering Report
« Reply #581 on: August 11, 2012, 05:42:24 PM »
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Maybe I'd better make some kind of disclaimer, like your mileage may very, just in case something bad happens...

Oddly enough the same statement that should have been on my marriage certificate! :scared: :facepalm:

This is raised with 2 pieces of de-papered foamcore board.  Any thoughts on the floating loading doors on the left?  Also, should I go higher, and if so, how should I treat the edge?  Another retaining wall above this or rip the old one out and make it one?

I'd rip the old wall out and make it all one.

You could modify the floating doors to have something like vents coming out of them or other duct work, so that they don't look like a loading door.
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Re: PRR/Conrail Juniata Division Engineering Report
« Reply #582 on: August 11, 2012, 06:16:56 PM »
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I raised it up another foam core panel.  I will make the rear wall flush with the retaining wall.  That should look pretty hawt!

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Re: PRR/Conrail Juniata Division Engineering Report
« Reply #583 on: August 11, 2012, 06:24:31 PM »
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Make the rear wall that is flush with the other wall a different product like concrete to make it look "after the fact"
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Re: PRR/Conrail Juniata Division Engineering Report
« Reply #584 on: August 11, 2012, 06:50:47 PM »
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What about the "tower"?