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justTRAINcRaZy

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New Layout Room
« on: August 09, 2007, 09:21:01 AM »
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About a year ago, I started thinking about how I could expand from my 12' x 12' room to something larger. In January 2007, I visited an Ops session at Michael Pennie's Penn Central layout (see Great Model Layouts 2007) and saw what a rather large layout could be.

I used the winter and early spring to start building mini scenes and scratchbuilding some of the structures I knew I would need. As soon as it warmed a bit, I broke ground on a plan to extend out the back of my barn. I wanted to follow the existing profile, so I was limited to 18' wide, but could make it as long as I wanted. As I set posts for the above ground structure, I finally stopped at 48'.

Below are some of the mini scenes and building progress. The locale for the new layout is central NC and includes the NS  mainline from around Greensboro to Salisbury. A center penninsula will include the shortline, Winston Salem Southbound and possibly the High Point Thomasville & Denton RR.

Some of the parts:










justTRAINcRaZy

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Re: New Layout Room
« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2007, 09:23:27 AM »
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The room progress:

Late May 2007




July 06, 2007




July 20, 2007


July 29, 2007


Aug 04, 2007
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Re: New Layout Room
« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2007, 09:52:30 AM »
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I am THOROUGHLY impressed.

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Re: New Layout Room
« Reply #3 on: August 09, 2007, 09:53:29 AM »
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Yeah, me too.  This has huge potential...

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Re: New Layout Room
« Reply #4 on: August 09, 2007, 10:47:28 AM »
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That is some serious framing, and a fantastic space for a layout.  Very nice!

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Re: New Layout Room
« Reply #5 on: August 09, 2007, 11:05:04 AM »
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Thanks all. There are some good modelers (and Photoshoppers) on the Railwire and I hesitated posting anything. The bridges were the first scratchbuilts I ever tried. The 680 foot Yadkin bridge with highway bridge beside were built uncompressed. I wanted them to make a statement. The will be just before the entrance to the 28 foot Spencer Hump Yard.

KB


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Re: New Layout Room
« Reply #6 on: August 09, 2007, 11:20:34 AM »
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wow.. you're making us all jealous! 

Just out of curiousity.. maybe it's an optical illusion.. are those floor joists 2' OC?

I'm building a nearly identical addition onto my Sisters barn.. but not for a layout, unfortunatly :)


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Re: New Layout Room
« Reply #7 on: August 09, 2007, 11:57:03 AM »
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Yes. 24" O.C. The loft inside the barn was at 24", and I'm not planning on really putting anything upstairs, so I just stayed at 24. The floors are sheeted with Advantech 23/32" panels and are rated for 24" spans.

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Re: New Layout Room
« Reply #8 on: August 09, 2007, 12:32:49 PM »
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are the floor joists 24" too?   Not like you're going to have a ton of load there.. but they're usually 16" oc, at least around these parts 

Either way.. i'm still jealous as hell ;) 

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Re: New Layout Room
« Reply #9 on: August 10, 2007, 08:32:49 AM »
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The floor joists look a tad light, too.  What are you spanning with them?  Is there a pier line under there we can't see?

I'm just thinking of the loads that will be applied considering the average size of model railroaders... ;D

Also, you need to expand on how you built this bridge...


It's fantastic.

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Re: New Layout Room
« Reply #10 on: August 10, 2007, 10:06:52 AM »
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I had to offset the beam. The 2 x 6 joists span 10' on one side and 8' on the other. The 8' side is right and the 10' side is a little light. Should have been 7". The joists are blocked every 48", the same as the second floor, with 23/32 tongue and groove Advantech flooring.

The bridge.
Don't know where to start. The Yadkin River bridge is 680' long by NS trackplans. Should have been 51" long, but I compressed it to 48"  ;)

I just bought some Plastruct and started scaling off a couple pictures I had. I built it sections, 2 sections at a time and then adding the crossmembers.

There are a lot of proto pictures of it and the accompanying highway bridges at: http://forums.ccnscalers.com/index.php?topic=648.0

Look closely at the concrete piers on one of the highway bridges... note the exposed rebar. That's the bridge I have to cross to get to my LHS.  :o

***Have added a couple of pictures I took at lunch today.

KB






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Re: New Layout Room
« Reply #11 on: August 10, 2007, 11:15:18 PM »
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Hey Kevin,

Looks just like home!!!

That's some great work...   Here are a couple more shots of the real deal to show you just how good his rendition is:

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=86164&nseq=229
http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=183037&nseq=7
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Re: New Layout Room
« Reply #12 on: August 11, 2007, 12:52:42 AM »
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The 2 x 6 joists span 10' on one side

whoa nelly... 2x6 spanning 10' on 24" centers?  you may want to consider another beam my friend!  Just curious, is that to code in your area?

Tim

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Re: New Layout Room
« Reply #13 on: August 11, 2007, 01:49:56 AM »
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I was thinking the same thing.  Little trains don't like bouncy floors...
I'd have gone 2x8 16" o.c.
Figure if you have a bunch of operators over, that can be quite a load...
I mean look at all the meat I had in my train room last week... :o


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Re: New Layout Room
« Reply #14 on: August 11, 2007, 05:07:56 PM »
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whoa nelly... 2x6 spanning 10' on 24" centers?  you may want to consider another beam my friend!  Just curious, is that to code in your area?

Tim

Boing Boing!  Yes that's going to be fun with little trains on tracks...  I wouldn't want 2x6's spanning more than about 7-8 feet at 450mm (17") centres...  I used 8 foot spans and 500mm centres on my deck outdoors but of course that's braced by hardwood planks on top and doesn't matter that it's a bit bouncy...

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