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woodone

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JMRI USB interface with NCE Power Cab
« on: April 21, 2021, 02:49:27 PM »
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This is a new post regarding a post I made on 02/21/2021. RailWire noted to me I should open a new one.
So here goes.  This is going to be a long post.
I really need help with this, has you can see by the date of my first post I have been dealing with this for a long time.
I can open JMRI on my computer but when I try to do a new loco I get the green service line at the bottom of the screen.
This only stays on for about 10 seconds then goes to RED.
Here is what  equipment I am running:  a acer laptop running Windows 10, NCE Power Cab. USB interface from NCE.
I have tried to change every thing-new USB adaptor. Three different computers. New cables-different throttle.
Each and every change was restarted per JMRI information. Same on the Cab side.
I even took this equipment to a computer repair shop. Two tech’s worked with me on this for about two hours.
All resulting in NO CHANGE!
Help from any one,  I am really frustrated and don’t know where to turn.
Thanks in advance.

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Re: JMRI USB interface with NCE Power Cab
« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2021, 06:41:47 PM »
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This is a new post regarding a post I made on 02/21/2021. RailWire noted to me I should open a new one.
So here goes.  This is going to be a long post.
Help from any one,  I am really frustrated and don’t know where to turn.
Thanks in advance.

That warning can be safely ignored (if your new post is really a good fit to add to the old thread). The warning is there for the newbies not to carelessly bring back old dead threads without a good reason.
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Re: JMRI USB interface with NCE Power Cab
« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2021, 07:57:40 PM »
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Try disconnecting all of the jumpers on the board. It adjusts the data rate or something. I couldn't get my NCE USB interface to work with JMRI until I did this. (Of course, note which pins a jumpered first.)
The fabric of reality has begun to fray.

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Re: JMRI USB interface with NCE Power Cab
« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2021, 08:06:27 PM »
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Take a look at this.
https://sites.google.com/site/mgurriesncedcc/home/nce-usb-adapter
I had issues with mismatched set up in JMRI and the usb baud rate in the past which was my problem.
Here is another link that might be helpful too.
https://ncedcc.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/203157985-JMRI-NCE-Hardware-guide
« Last Edit: April 21, 2021, 08:08:32 PM by Steveruger45 »
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Re: JMRI USB interface with NCE Power Cab
« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2021, 08:12:50 PM »
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Thanks CR4100- I have changed the jumpers to the way the NCE instructions told me to- that did not work so I did like you said still does not work. I have been struggling with this for over  4 weeks now and no matter what I have tried it does not work.
I have checked the ports/reset the ports I have plugged and un plugged cables and throttles ‘tried a new USB all resulting in it not working- very frustrating - this is a tool I use all the time, well not lately.

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Re: JMRI USB interface with NCE Power Cab
« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2021, 08:23:53 PM »
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Have you tried asking for help on the NCE groups.io list.  They routinely help with issues like this one.  Usually successfully.  It gets very detailed - they will be asking you to post logs from JMRI and trouble shoot for you.

If you are not already a member, sign-up with Groups.io, then join NCE-DCC group and ask your question there.

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Re: JMRI USB interface with NCE Power Cab
« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2021, 08:36:09 PM »
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Had not seen that first link so I go back to it to see if I can make a change- I am thinking I have 64 bit computers?
Not sure how to check that?

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Re: JMRI USB interface with NCE Power Cab
« Reply #8 on: April 21, 2021, 09:44:33 PM »
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Lots of new information here- got to read and research- Be tomorrow before I give some more time into it.
Thanks for all the input.

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Re: JMRI USB interface with NCE Power Cab
« Reply #9 on: May 01, 2021, 04:43:56 PM »
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Well I wasted some more time trying to get JMRI to work. NO GO! At one point I was able to open Decoder Pro and have the service line stay green- but on the top of page there was a amber box saying UNKNOWN—click to turn off well with a bunch of fiddling around I finally got a green in the square telling me it was ON.  GREAT- tried to read the decoder, program status timed out gave me an error cod of 306- I know the connection to loco is good because I see the power LED on. And with the PC I can operate the loco- even tried a non-sound bare bones two function decoder in a different loco. Same results. After reading info for the 306 code , Used my IPad for that.
I tried again to open decoder-pro- came up green service line at bottom- BUT after 10 seconds it went to RED.
I AM done-wasted time.
Thanks for all the input.

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Re: JMRI USB interface with NCE Power Cab
« Reply #10 on: May 02, 2021, 03:50:41 AM »
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Jerry, did you try asking for help on https://groups.io/g/NCE-DCC ?  There are almost 6,000 members there just itching to help you out. That is more than probably about a dozen of NCE-aware members here.

And for JMRI help, there is https://groups.io/g/jmriusers with over 8.400 users. Plenty of people there to assist.
« Last Edit: May 02, 2021, 02:26:31 PM by peteski »
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Re: JMRI USB interface with NCE Power Cab
« Reply #11 on: May 02, 2021, 01:10:13 PM »
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Jerry,

have you deleted your current (corrupted ?) version of JMNRI from your computer and then downloaded the most current version. To me that would be like a fresh startup. Nothing else has worked, just maybe.......

Be well,
Carl
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Re: JMRI USB interface with NCE Power Cab
« Reply #12 on: May 02, 2021, 04:53:18 PM »
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Pete, have not joined that one, I did sign up in the JMRIuser group. So far it has been a lesson in a new format to me. Very steep learning curve to me.
Carl, I have installed & uninstalled JMRIso many times I lost count.
The one thing I have come up with is the sequence which you load your computer.  AND if you have the USB interface powered up or not.

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Re: JMRI USB interface with NCE Power Cab
« Reply #13 on: May 04, 2021, 07:25:40 PM »
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 I just found this in my saved stuff. 

https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:nCQEjAnJ4WAJ:https://ncedcc.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/115001995503-USB-Interface-Read-Me-First+&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

You may already be aware of the gem in this about removing any JMRI installed completely before installing the usb interface.
But just in case not, I thought it might be helpful.
Steve
Atascocita, Texas

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Re: JMRI USB interface with NCE Power Cab
« Reply #14 on: May 04, 2021, 08:18:02 PM »
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I know you are frustrated, I have been too, and wrote down the steps I had to go through.

If you go step by step, you can get there...

Try my sequence, and also I'd be happy to help you by email too.

https://elmassian.com/index.php/dcc/specific-manufacturers/nce-equipment/nce-usb-serial-jmri-interfaces

I did learn recently that my 2 USB interfaces are different versions, but they both work fine with JMRI and on 2 different computers.

Greg