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Re: N scale Siemens SC-44 Charger????
« Reply #15 on: October 22, 2020, 09:50:01 AM »
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There are actually several Charger liveries from the various state/regional Amtrak services. The ALC-42 livery on the image I posted is actually a special scheme for one or two units (I believe it's related to Amtrak's 50th Anniversary next year) and not the final one that will be on all the new long-distance locos - that hasn't been designed yet.
This is the one I don't like
https://media.amtrak.com/2017/08/new-locomotives-serving-amtrak-customers-state-sponsored-trains-midwest/
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Re: N scale Siemens SC-44 Charger????
« Reply #16 on: October 22, 2020, 10:31:55 AM »
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This is the one I don't like
https://media.amtrak.com/2017/08/new-locomotives-serving-amtrak-customers-state-sponsored-trains-midwest/

I don't mind them, but you have to remember, that's not an Amtrak asset. It's owned by the states, not Amtrak, so the state decides how to paint the things.

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Re: N scale Siemens SC-44 Charger????
« Reply #17 on: October 22, 2020, 01:27:26 PM »
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I'm a fan of them, And if someone makes one I will probably buy one, especially if I can get the cascades Talgo trainset also... Or get something that I could kitbash into the cascades trainset......

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Re: N scale Siemens SC-44 Charger????
« Reply #18 on: October 22, 2020, 02:26:02 PM »
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I'm a fan of them, And if someone makes one I will probably buy one, especially if I can get the cascades Talgo trainset also... Or get something that I could kitbash into the cascades trainset......

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Both Arnold and Electrotren (Spain) make the modern talgo that matches the Cascades trainsets.  The only thing you'd need to bash are the fairings.

https://www.reynaulds.com/products/Arnold/HN4210.aspx

These are the imported Electrotren models rebranded:  https://www.nscalesupply.com/erm/erm-talgo.html

https://www.1001modelkits.com/passenger-cars/297026-electrotren-e3345-renfe-talgo-pendular-largo-recorrido-6-unit-base-set-ep-v-8425420080265.html?gclid=Cj0KCQjw28T8BRDbARIsAEOMBcwTGi5ozfgmosWGWaoNcclvADbTHu05NtfXTiV-6pAuT5_sj6UgEPMaAvykEALw_wcB
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Re: N scale Siemens SC-44 Charger????
« Reply #19 on: October 31, 2020, 09:52:31 PM »
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Go Kato!
I like them locos. I'm sure Kato will make them. Or maybe Atlas?
Looks like you might get your wish but in the wrong scale. Check out the Kato web poll
http://katousa.com/webpoll.html

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Re: N scale Siemens SC-44 Charger????
« Reply #20 on: November 01, 2020, 12:21:58 PM »
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Looks like you might get your wish but in the wrong scale. Check out the Kato web poll
http://katousa.com/webpoll.html

Has Kato ever released something in HO and not (eventually) bring it out in N down the line? Their HO GP35s and SD38-2s being the exception of course.

If anything, that poll may be more for gauging HO interest before announcing N scale releases of the Pioneer Zephyr, Charger, and Acela.


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Re: N scale Siemens SC-44 Charger????
« Reply #21 on: November 01, 2020, 01:25:17 PM »
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I don't exactly need a Charger as they are definitely too new, but if they were offered in a bookcase set, with Surfliners and maybe a Superliner I Coach in Surfliner paint, I'd buy one. There is quite a few different paint schemes that could be done on them. And they would be hot sellers I'm sure.

Heck I want the Surfliner cars more than anything. They were deadheaded in Southwest Chiefs consists to and from Beech Grove.

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I still don't understand why Kato has never done Superliner IIs or Surfliners. Rarely are there complete trains of Superliner I cars in Amtrak LD trains.

Surfliner with Charger and Surfliner painted Superliner Coach in consist
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Re: N scale Siemens SC-44 Charger????
« Reply #22 on: November 01, 2020, 01:35:28 PM »
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Yeah, Surfliner cars would sure be nice! There must be some type of nasty licensing issue with doing those cars or something.

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Re: N scale Siemens SC-44 Charger????
« Reply #23 on: November 01, 2020, 02:21:15 PM »
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Yeah, Surfliner cars would sure be nice! There must be some type of nasty licensing issue with doing those cars or something.

It might also be the case that Kato is  busy producing models for their domestic Japanese market.  As I understand Kato USA (and American prototype models) take a backseat to their Japanese prototype models. Since they are Japanese company, I don't think we can really hold that against them.

Actually we are lucky that Kato makes U.S. prototype models at all.  Other Japanese companies like Micro-Ace, Tomix don't do American trains.
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Re: N scale Siemens SC-44 Charger????
« Reply #24 on: November 01, 2020, 03:21:20 PM »
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But it's not just Kato that could do them. Always found it odd that Athearn never did any to go with their Surfliner F59PHI, which they've released more than once.

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Re: N scale Siemens SC-44 Charger????
« Reply #25 on: November 01, 2020, 03:35:54 PM »
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It might also be the case that Kato is  busy producing models for their domestic Japanese market.  As I understand Kato USA (and American prototype models) take a backseat to their Japanese prototype models. Since they are Japanese company, I don't think we can really hold that against them.

Actually we are lucky that Kato makes U.S. prototype models at all.  Other Japanese companies like Micro-Ace, Tomix don't do American trains.

You'd be surprised at how much the Japanese model American and European prototypes just by following their social media. There's demand for US prototypes like the Pacific Surfliner in Japan; maybe a Kobo bookcase release of repainted (and lightly retooled?) Superliner Is and a Charger would be a good fit for that project.

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Re: N scale Siemens SC-44 Charger????
« Reply #26 on: November 01, 2020, 08:13:41 PM »
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As far as I can tell California cars have never been done in plastic in any scale.   There's a couple Superliners that have been done up in similar paint in both 1:1 and  model.

As faras the Charger, they pass by my house everyday, but I already have two Amtrak California locomotives waiting for cars, don't need anogher that's out of my era.  :P

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Re: N scale Siemens SC-44 Charger????
« Reply #27 on: November 03, 2020, 09:28:16 PM »
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As far as I can tell California cars have never been done in plastic in any scale.   There's a couple Superliners that have been done up in similar paint in both 1:1 and  model.


The California Cars and Surfliners have actually been done in plastic in Z scale by American Z Lines over a decade ago. But from what I heard, there was only one run of them.
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Re: N scale Siemens SC-44 Charger????
« Reply #28 on: November 20, 2020, 08:06:21 PM »
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Just found this, so if you are easily angered don't click the link. Not the manufacturer of choice and not even sure if this isn't fake but here it is:

This is under N scale.
https://www.bachmann.co.uk/product/category/193/charger-sc-44-amtrak-cascades-%28wsdot%29-1400/67904

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Re: N scale Siemens SC-44 Charger????
« Reply #29 on: November 20, 2020, 08:08:06 PM »
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This is under N scale.

But it's the HO one.

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