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Re: 4014 in action!
« Reply #30 on: May 11, 2019, 01:53:57 AM »
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The 844 is leaking in that footage, too.

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Re: 4014 in action!
« Reply #31 on: May 11, 2019, 11:38:23 AM »
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Sounds like you are making an argument against your own statement.  I never said it was oil (I said steam). You were the one who stated "It's lubricating oil residue.".

Whatever. . . It is a rusty-color residue.  :)

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Last few shots of this video shows it pretty good.

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Re: 4014 in action!
« Reply #32 on: May 11, 2019, 01:29:57 PM »
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Every video I see and hear the same thing. The right cylinder on 844 has a seal leak and the rear engine on 4014 isn't powered. Not one video shows any steam exiting the cylinder cocks and you only hear the chuff on the front engine and the rod knock on the rear. When you think you see steam from there it's actually the pipe in front of the cylinder dropping water. This is only my very uneducated observation though and could be very wrong.
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Re: 4014 in action!
« Reply #33 on: May 11, 2019, 02:03:59 PM »
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Sux that they had to put a diesel behind it.

Very cool to see 4014 under steam!  8)


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Re: 4014 in action!
« Reply #34 on: May 11, 2019, 02:17:58 PM »
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Sux that they had to put a diesel behind it.

Very cool to see 4014 under steam!  8)
They always put a diesel behind it for dynamic braking
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Re: 4014 in action!
« Reply #35 on: May 11, 2019, 03:00:55 PM »
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They always put a diesel behind it for dynamic braking

Still dislike it. I'm used to steam handling a train ...


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Re: 4014 in action!
« Reply #36 on: May 11, 2019, 03:06:33 PM »
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I agree that the "rusty" colored deposits on the running gear of the 4014 are from the blow by around the piston rods. It's on both sides.

Boy, the generator(s) are noisy!

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Re: 4014 in action!
« Reply #37 on: May 11, 2019, 03:16:51 PM »
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I guess I don't understand the antagonism toward diesels. They were a natural progression for the railroads. A business MUST do what's necessary to STAY in business. The manual labor involved in maintaining steam locomotives was incredible. Look what it takes just to get ONE running, these days. And this was done on a daily basis before diesels.

To me, being alongside diesels as they rev up to get a train moving is just as exciting as being beside a steamer.

And, don't get me wrong. Seeing 4014 actually running is a very emotional thing. Imagine what it will be like, once they get the issues resolved.

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« Reply #38 on: May 11, 2019, 03:19:47 PM »
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... the rear engine on 4014 isn't powered. Not one video shows any steam exiting the cylinder cocks and you only hear the chuff on the front engine and the rod knock on the rear. ...

Check this video at 5:30 or so. Steam definitely from the rear engine cylinder cocks:

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Re: 4014 in action!
« Reply #39 on: May 11, 2019, 05:40:31 PM »
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I guess I don't understand the antagonism toward diesels. They were a natural progression for the railroads. A business MUST do what's necessary to STAY in business. The manual labor involved in maintaining steam locomotives was incredible. Look what it takes just to get ONE running, these days. And this was done on a daily basis before diesels.

To me, being alongside diesels as they rev up to get a train moving is just as exciting as being beside a steamer.

And, don't get me wrong. Seeing 4014 actually running is a very emotional thing. Imagine what it will be like, once they get the issues resolved.

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I love diesels. Much more than steam. Either one of those steam locos should easily handle such a tiny train on their own though.


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Re: 4014 in action!
« Reply #40 on: May 11, 2019, 05:46:39 PM »
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I love diesels. Much more than steam. Either one of those steam locos should easily handle such a tiny train on their own though.

Ah, I understand your meaning, now. And, actually, I wasn't picking on you, Mark. It's more directed toward other comments, making fun of diesels, although I realize a lot of those are said in fun, too. Maybe I should just forget it. :D

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Re: 4014 in action!
« Reply #41 on: May 11, 2019, 05:50:21 PM »
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Check this video at 5:30 or so. Steam definitely from the rear engine cylinder cocks:

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I know I have seen footage with steam exiting the drain cocks on both the 4014 and 844, too. I mean, it was shooting right out of them. Also, they HAVE to do that. It's standard procedure with a steamer to avoid damage.

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Re: 4014 in action!
« Reply #42 on: May 11, 2019, 05:58:29 PM »
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I guess those "new" guys have to learn exactly how the old guys packed the piston rods.

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Re: 4014 in action!
« Reply #43 on: May 11, 2019, 06:59:15 PM »
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Sure worlds largest standard gauge is cool, but I got to see the world largest 24" gauge loco.

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Re: 4014 in action!
« Reply #44 on: May 11, 2019, 07:00:08 PM »
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Every video I see and hear the same thing. The right cylinder on 844 has a seal leak and the rear engine on 4014 isn't powered. Not one video shows any steam exiting the cylinder cocks and you only hear the chuff on the front engine and the rod knock on the rear. When you think you see steam from there it's actually the pipe in front of the cylinder dropping water. This is only my very uneducated observation though and could be very wrong.

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I thought the same thing then posted a video disproving my skeptasizm..

I watched through some earlier videos of big boys in service and 4014 is definitely 'leaky'..

In the rush to get it moving I'm sure they took a 'close enough' approach to get it ready.. Nobody in 2019 is going to know or care. 

And today, the ideal view of steam operations lots of smoke, steam and whistle.. is the exact opposite of what was required when in service.

Minimize smoke, white/gray smoke, balanced fire, maximize steam pressure usage, minimize water/fuel usage.. trying air horns to save steam pressure.. ect..

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