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Wheels of Time announced 1937 Daylight Chair car kits
« on: September 12, 2018, 05:16:44 PM »
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Just got a notice that Wheels of Time has announced a new N scale kit of a 1937 SP Chair car.
Here's a link:   http://www.wheelsotime.com/sp-1937-daylight-chair-car/

It looks to be a 3D printed kit - separate sides, floor, roof, ends and interior.
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Re: Wheels of Time announced 1937 Daylight Chair car kits
« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2018, 08:06:19 PM »
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My first question is if this is an as built car from 1937, why is it deskirted? the skirting, at least on the santa fe, was left on until the 50s when they started to leave them off for easier maintenance. I had a discussion with Lowell smith about this exact thing with his newly acquired tooling. it seems like we get limited to modeling the 50s and later due to manufacturers leaving this major detail off.

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this does look like a nice offering though.

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Re: Wheels of Time announced 1937 Daylight Chair car kits
« Reply #2 on: September 12, 2018, 08:38:02 PM »
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My first question is if this is an as built car from 1937, why is it deskirted? the skirting, at least on the santa fe, was left on until the 50s when they started to leave them off for easier maintenance.

From the description...

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These models represents the appearance in the late 1950s until the advent of Amtrak on CoSF and other train service.

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Re: Wheels of Time announced 1937 Daylight Chair car kits
« Reply #3 on: September 12, 2018, 09:13:45 PM »
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Yeah, the deskirting is a disappointment for me - I'd like two for a 194mumble Golden State, but they'd need skirts.
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Re: Wheels of Time announced 1937 Daylight Chair car kits
« Reply #4 on: September 12, 2018, 09:31:17 PM »
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To play devil's advocate, is it easier to scratch-build the entire car with skirts or add skirts to a commercially available model?   :trollface: :D
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Re: Wheels of Time announced 1937 Daylight Chair car kits
« Reply #5 on: September 12, 2018, 09:52:21 PM »
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According to the notice nevermind....somehow I missed wcfn100's post above.

For those that might want an easy to apply skirting-

 Des Plaines hobbies still has their car skirts available
http://www.desplaineshobbies.com/store/product/43510/N-PASSENGER-CAR-SKIRTS/

I am guessing some modifications would be needed for a 77' car, but these are the same skirts that were included with the Des Plaines "Shasta" cars of 20 years ago.
« Last Edit: September 12, 2018, 10:02:47 PM by thomasjmdavis »
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Re: Wheels of Time announced 1937 Daylight Chair car kits
« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2018, 10:05:29 PM »
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And skirts aside, nice to see WoT producing some new passenger car kits.  Hope these are successful and we see some other cars in the not-too-distant future.
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Re: Wheels of Time announced 1937 Daylight Chair car kits
« Reply #7 on: September 12, 2018, 11:46:50 PM »
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To play devil's advocate, is it easier to scratch-build the entire car with skirts or add skirts to a commercially available model?   :trollface: :D

Umm - I just might do that.  The hard part is that I'm pretty sure the skirts should be fluted.
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Re: Wheels of Time announced 1937 Daylight Chair car kits
« Reply #8 on: September 13, 2018, 12:21:09 AM »
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As a long distance fan of WoT freight cars and their exclusive passenger consist,
i'm hoping to be in for one of the 'built and decorated' SP Chair as a roll-thru model.
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Re: Wheels of Time announced 1937 Daylight Chair car kits
« Reply #9 on: September 13, 2018, 10:13:04 AM »
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Umm - I just might do that.  The hard part is that I'm pretty sure the skirts should be fluted.

Nope - the skirts were not fluted.

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Re: Wheels of Time announced 1937 Daylight Chair car kits
« Reply #10 on: September 13, 2018, 10:19:57 AM »
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this is a cool concept and a car I could really use.  I wanna support WOT, especially with all this China stuff going on.  I'll be placing my order soon.

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Re: Wheels of Time announced 1937 Daylight Chair car kits
« Reply #11 on: September 13, 2018, 10:29:05 AM »
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I wonder if he will still be doing injection molded passenger stuff? A re-run of the horse-baggage and 70' baggage would be nice.

That said, I'll still be buying one of these with Des Plaines skirts.

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Re: Wheels of Time announced 1937 Daylight Chair car kits
« Reply #12 on: September 13, 2018, 10:51:30 AM »
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I wonder if he will still be doing injection molded passenger stuff? A re-run of the horse-baggage and 70' baggage would be nice.

That said, I'll still be buying one of these with Des Plaines skirts.
I would imagine that since the tooling already exists for their injection molded lines (baggage, horse, Harriman coach, etc), they would run them whenever they see the demand.

But the 3D printed line will let them produce cars with less demand, and that could mean seeing several of the cars they once did in resin- as well as being able to branch out in other directions. Plus some new cars that would not meet the threshold to make injection molding viable.  Price looks reasonable too. Also provides for a continuous income stream for WoT, which I imagine is welcome when a business is depending on a container on a "slow boat from China" arriving a couple times a year.
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Re: Wheels of Time announced 1937 Daylight Chair car kits
« Reply #13 on: September 13, 2018, 11:17:14 AM »
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Nope - the skirts were not fluted.

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Good to know - a much easier change.  Anyone got a pointer to a photo of one of these with skirts?
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Re: Wheels of Time announced 1937 Daylight Chair car kits
« Reply #14 on: September 13, 2018, 11:57:49 AM »
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Good to know - a much easier change.  Anyone got a pointer to a photo of one of these with skirts?

Here is a later series car with the same fluting and general floor plan, except the vestibule ends are switched. Same skirting and all:
http://digital.denverlibrary.org/cdm/fullbrowser/collection/p15330coll22/id/53860/rv/singleitem

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