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Re: N C636 from CESM
« Reply #60 on: June 20, 2017, 01:30:26 PM »
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I'll add my request for a RS27... I need something like 5 to 7 of them lol  :facepalm:

Will probably grab a couple C636 just because, Do you still need pics of the C630 Shell?

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Re: N C636 from CESM
« Reply #61 on: June 20, 2017, 05:20:32 PM »
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Can I request a C430 next? Or an AS616?

I'll add my request for a RS27... I need something like 5 to 7 of them lol  :facepalm:

Will probably grab a couple C636 just because, Do you still need pics of the C630 Shell?

I'd love to do more Alcos this summer but we will see how much time I get... I'm already committed, as I said, to the C415 plus the LS1000/LS1200 model and the TP56. I might be able to squeeze in another model or two but those might come at the expense of my darth vader signals.

I don't need the pics any more, thanks for asking.
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Re: N C636 from CESM
« Reply #62 on: June 20, 2017, 05:26:48 PM »
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Reiterating from earlier in the thread, another vote for an RS-27, with dynamic brakes. I could use two or three.

But an C415 (SP config) is on my wishlist, too. Hard to justify a C636 on my RR, but it's cool your doing it.
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Re: N C636 from CESM
« Reply #63 on: June 20, 2017, 08:48:22 PM »
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Wait a sec... the RS-27 isn't that much different from the RS36, which I have already designed and is in my shop. Can someone describe the spotting differences? I see the nose is shorter and the prime mover is different along with the fan being bigger. What can I use for drawings?
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Re: N C636 from CESM
« Reply #64 on: June 20, 2017, 08:57:47 PM »
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Can't vouch for the dimensional accuracy of these drawings but basically it has a longer long hood and shorter nose...

They should at least give you an idea of the main door/grill differences (he has both sides of multiple variations on his site)

http://trainiax.net/drawings/36-alco/rs/r36-alco-rs-36-dh.GIF

http://trainiax.net/drawings/55-alco/rs/r55-alco-rs27-prr.GIF

Personally I would like the non DB version... (as would most Soo fans)

http://trainiax.net/drawings/55-alco/rs/r55-alco-rs27-nodb.GIF

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Re: N C636 from CESM
« Reply #65 on: June 20, 2017, 08:59:29 PM »
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I think the RS-27 fuel tank is unique, as well.
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Re: N C636 from CESM
« Reply #66 on: June 20, 2017, 09:36:41 PM »
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I think the RS-27 fuel tank is unique, as well.

No, I don't think so... I saw that same one on some RS36s and maybe even an RS11... maybe not.

Can't vouch for the dimensional accuracy of these drawings but basically it has a longer long hood and shorter nose...

They should at least give you an idea of the main door/grill differences (he has both sides of multiple variations on his site)

http://trainiax.net/drawings/36-alco/rs/r36-alco-rs-36-dh.GIF

http://trainiax.net/drawings/55-alco/rs/r55-alco-rs27-prr.GIF

Personally I would like the non DB version... (as would most Soo fans)

http://trainiax.net/drawings/55-alco/rs/r55-alco-rs27-nodb.GIF

Looks good... what about magazine drawings hat I could get?
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Re: N C636 from CESM
« Reply #67 on: June 20, 2017, 10:11:19 PM »
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No, I don't think so... I saw that same one on some RS36s and maybe even an RS11... maybe not. ...

It's different than what's on Atlas' RS-11... at least I had determined that much when exploring bashing my own a few years back. I have a couple of reference photos, so I'll pass those your way when I get home.

EDIT: Here are some reasonable shots of the tanks on UP's ex-demos:

  http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=2318142
  http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=2317156
  http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=784878

Bear in mind these were produced during Alco's "schizophrenic" period, where it just seemed that no two locomotives left their shops with the same details.  :facepalm:
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Re: N C636 from CESM
« Reply #68 on: June 20, 2017, 11:32:50 PM »
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If made with the same sort of frame mod you're talking about for the C415, I'd buy 3 o4 C430, a couple of RS27, and a foursome or more of the AS616s. I will definitely get 3 C415s, one for SP&S colors and the two for my road.
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Re: N C636 from CESM
« Reply #69 on: June 20, 2017, 11:45:31 PM »
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Looks good... what about magazine drawings hat I could get?

Mainline Modeler May 1988 has a drawing of the DL-640 (RS-27).

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Re: N C636 from CESM
« Reply #70 on: June 21, 2017, 12:28:59 AM »
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Mainline Modeler May 1988 has a drawing of the DL-640 (RS-27).

Jason

Cool... but I was talking about this RS27:  :trollface:



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Re: N C636 from CESM
« Reply #71 on: June 21, 2017, 10:50:29 AM »
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You know what I'm most excited about?

With all this work you're putting into these, it means Atlas will be announcing them this fall.

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Re: N C636 from CESM
« Reply #72 on: June 21, 2017, 12:05:05 PM »
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You know what I'm most excited about?

With all this work you're putting into these, it means Atlas will be announcing them this fall.

lol I got notice a while back form atlas on that exact matter for another of my past products... hasn't happened yet here.
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Re: N C636 from CESM
« Reply #73 on: June 23, 2017, 06:28:08 PM »
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Alright everyone, I'm ready to conduct a survey on these units. A lot has changed in terms of plans since I announced the CAD was in progress.

https://docs.google.com/forms/u/0/d/e/1FAIpQLSfY_MEe7D09X5xR_jeu_MbaGi7-TA_oG4XRwsXIAULnAahRiw/viewform?usp=sf_link

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Cutting Edge Scale Models is producing a model of the Alco C636 in N scale! The models will be sold as fully assembled and painted shells with some extra details that are modeler-applied. Details are subject to change, but we are gauging interest for different roads of this model with the following tentative specifications:
The shell will be a quality resin cast shell based on a CLIP 3D print (CLIP is a new technology that uses oxygen to inhibit the cure of some of the resin in DLP 3D printing, resulting in a part with no layer lines at all). The shell will then be detailed with open fan grilles and other prototypical etched metal detail parts - such as snow shields on some BN units.

Tru-color paint will be used to decorate the models with the assistance of custom made masks (not masking tape) for complex paint schemes. Logos and text will be applied using pad printing (tampoprinting) so that the models will not exhibit "silvering" under the decals.

Sideframes will be included with each model, that have been 3D printed in Shapeways High-Def Acrylate or a similar material then sanded, cleaned and painted. We chose to print the sideframes so that the spring detail is realistic on these very unique sideframes.

The models will feature pre-installed laser cut windows and modeler-installed windshield wipers, along with pre-installed fiber optics that will use the pre-existing atlas LEDs to create the headlights.

Cost has not been set yet. Because these are largely hand-made, low-run items, the cost of a shell will not be as low as the cost of a shell from Atlas. You can expect a shell to cost around $150, but I would again emphasize that this is subject to change. Undecorated models will cost a little less, but because of the efficiencies of pad printing, not much.

We need your help to meed our minimum order quantities - 100 units in total - within one week (June 30). Please help this model come to life! (still, please be reasonable with your road name quantity indication so that we don't overestimate demand) Delivery should be late Summer 2017.
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Re: N C636 from CESM
« Reply #74 on: June 23, 2017, 08:47:45 PM »
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Response submitted (fingers crossed the price estimate doesn't put too many people off)

Are you also planning to make the sideframes available separately? I like the look of those CR/ Reading late production C-630s...

Thanks for taking the initiative on this, David!
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