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Re: What Could This Be...
« Reply #45 on: June 17, 2017, 02:01:33 AM »
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I already have hi-ad trucks designed to fit the atlas trucks so yup.

Everything except the frame, truck side frames, and PCB... the flywheels are extended using 3D printed components so that they can still turn the drive shafts.

Is the wheelbase on the C415 trucks 9'?

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Re: What Could This Be...
« Reply #46 on: June 18, 2017, 01:37:19 AM »
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Just to clarify, I think the prototypical road names would be:
1) Alco Demonstrator
2) Cartier Mining
3) Illinois Central
4) Penn Central
5) Conrail
6) SP&S
7) BN
8) Hamersley Iron
9) Mount Newman Mining
10) New York & Western Pennsylvania
11) Delaware Lackawanna


The Cartier Mining Railway had both C636 and MLW M636's1.  They bought used from M-K the three units that were originally the ALCo C636 demonstrators, numbered 77, 78, and 79.  They had 11 MLW M636's bought new numbered 71-76 (72 destroyed in a wreck) and 81-85.  They also had 11 MLW M636's bought used from CN numbered 41-49 and 86 and 87.  Apparently they avoided any numbers ending in "0".


10) is actually The Western New York & Pennsylvania (WNYP) and their 5 units2 are all MLW M636's bought used with heritages as Cartier or CN units.

The Delaware Lackawanna has one each of the ALCo C636 (DL 3642) and MLW M636 (DL 3643)3 so one number would be correct. 

As mentioned, the C636 and M636 have some quite distinctive differences so WNYP paint is a definite foob although you could get away with Cartier for three units.


References:
(1) Cartier railway roster over the years
(2) ALCo Locomotives of New York State
(3) Delaware-Lackawanna Roster (Diesel Shop)
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Re: What Could This Be...
« Reply #47 on: June 18, 2017, 12:29:05 PM »
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C-415 is next... we shall see after that.

Woohoo!!!! Will the three different cab styles be addressed?
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Re: What Could This Be...
« Reply #48 on: June 18, 2017, 12:35:13 PM »
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But as Lowell stated on the page, these are just C630s painted up as C636s.

But a nice alternative for those who don't have the time or skill set to do their own custom work.
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Re: What Could This Be...
« Reply #49 on: June 18, 2017, 10:25:15 PM »
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Woohoo!!!! Will the three different cab styles be addressed?

Most definitely  :D

I'm just about finished with the CAD for the main shell, and I'm in the process now of making the shell fit the C628/630 mechanism. I have the mechanism but not the shell to work from, so would anyone here care to post photos of the inside and side of the C628 or C630 shell? I'm mostly looking for the sections where the motor is and how the shell goes over the edge of the mechanism. Lots of details please!
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Re: N C636 from CESM
« Reply #50 on: June 19, 2017, 05:40:59 AM »
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Shoot. I had the model essentially finished when Inventor crashed and I lost the air tanks, the motor clearance features, the I-beam under the unit, the handrail locators, and some of the pilot detail. No way back other than doing it all again. This is what defines a "feelsbadman" moment.  :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: Should have hit Ctrl-s more frequently, especially now that I have upwards of 1500 dimensions, over 200 sketches, over 150 extrusions, and a host of rectangular patterns and other paraphernalia.

At least I didn't lose the door hinges and latches... that would have put the project on hold for a while.


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Re: N C636 from CESM
« Reply #51 on: June 19, 2017, 05:44:52 AM »
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How do you (or anyone) get Inventor?  I can't find it for sale, you need to talk with a salesman and get on a yearly service contract. Students get it free, but only for a year.

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Re: N C636 from CESM
« Reply #52 on: June 19, 2017, 06:48:25 AM »
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How do you (or anyone) get Inventor?  I can't find it for sale, you need to talk with a salesman and get on a yearly service contract. Students get it free, but only for a year.

https://www.autodesk.com/products/inventor/subscribe?plc=INVPROSA&term=1-YEAR&support=ADVANCED&quantity=1

They have phased out the perpetual licences... and it's expensive
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Re: What Could This Be...
« Reply #53 on: June 19, 2017, 06:48:53 AM »
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Is the wheelbase on the C415 trucks 9'?

Jason

Yeah I think so... if not it is very close
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Re: N C636 from CESM
« Reply #54 on: June 19, 2017, 02:17:13 PM »
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https://www.autodesk.com/products/inventor/subscribe?plc=INVPROSA&term=1-YEAR&support=ADVANCED&quantity=1

They have phased out the perpetual licences... and it's expensive

This is what I mean $2000 a year to play with trains  :scared:  If you are a business and use this everyday to make a living, yeah it might be worth it.

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Re: N C636 from CESM
« Reply #55 on: June 20, 2017, 11:26:46 AM »
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Hey everyone,

I finished the CAD for the shell, trucks, and fuel tank. I still have to design the etchings but that should be done later today. Here's some images:





The hi-ads took forever to draw, mostly because I first had to figure out where to start. Now that those are out of the way, this thing should be a piece of cake to finish.

http://www.cescalemodels.com/n-alco-c636
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Re: N C636 from CESM
« Reply #56 on: June 20, 2017, 11:45:17 AM »
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Looks awesome at a glance! 8)

Are the trucks designed to fit the "factory" Atlas trucks?

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Re: N C636 from CESM
« Reply #57 on: June 20, 2017, 12:29:05 PM »
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Looks awesome at a glance! 8)

Are the trucks designed to fit the "factory" Atlas trucks?

Mark

Thanks. The trucks will fit atlas Dash 8 trucks because they have the closest to actual spacing. They will simply just snap on.
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Re: N C636 from CESM
« Reply #58 on: June 20, 2017, 12:46:56 PM »
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You don't fool around. Very nice!
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Re: N C636 from CESM
« Reply #59 on: June 20, 2017, 12:53:10 PM »
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Can I request a C430 next? Or an AS616?
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