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Airslide color assist
« on: August 02, 2016, 01:59:20 PM »
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Hey all,

Our first release of the air slide hopper will be the GATX/GACX blue scheme.  I contacted Exactrail Tangent about the colors they used and they could not help which was frustrating.  So anyone have an idea of the color blue (hobby reference/pantone#) would be close to the body color and it looks like blue was used for all the dim data etc and assuming its the same as the field behind the logo? I ordered a car on line but the dealer seems to be asleep at the wheel and it's still hastn't shown up. 

Any help would be appreciated.

Joe
« Last Edit: August 02, 2016, 09:25:46 PM by GaryHinshaw »

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Re: Airslide color assist
« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2016, 02:19:09 PM »
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I'm guessing you contacted Tangent scale models and Exactrail is a typo?

Atlas, Bowser and Athearn also may have info on that paintscheme. May be worth contacting them.

Our own @bbussey made a custom painted version of this scheme.

One thing I would recomend is that these cars faded fast, I would err on the side of a faded color rather then brand new.

Just my humble opinion...


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Re: Airslide color assist
« Reply #2 on: August 02, 2016, 03:06:03 PM »
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Got an email from some knuckle head who said the blue matches Tom Mann's eyes...nice, but hard to match that LOL

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Re: Airslide color assist
« Reply #3 on: August 02, 2016, 03:35:51 PM »
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Got an email from some knuckle head who said the blue matches Tom Mann's eyes...


Hmm... was that Kiz...?

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Re: Airslide color assist
« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2016, 04:34:54 PM »
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Got an email from some knuckle head who said the blue matches Tom Mann's eyes...nice, but hard to match that LOL

Here's a plan:  make it a faded blue, and fire up that fancy printer of yours and do this on the side:


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Re: Airslide color assist
« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2016, 05:13:06 PM »
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@Shipsure — THIS blue?



If so, I have the official GATX specs, but I'll have to dig them out as I did this back in 1994.

I also kitbashed a 2600cuft model and painted it in the scheme, so I have the paint specs somewhere.


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Re: Airslide color assist
« Reply #6 on: August 02, 2016, 05:59:03 PM »
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 :?
  seem to recall them being a medium dark Robins Egg Blue.
  close to the Rocks Bankrupt blue,just a shade or so darker.
  have no idea what hobby paint matches that ?
  Brian's 1st blue looks real close if it isn't faded.
  the 2nd car looks slightly off,but different shops paint differently.
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Re: Airslide color assist
« Reply #7 on: August 02, 2016, 06:08:41 PM »
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Yup.  The Tangent model looks like a pretty soft blue (like Tom Mann's eyes I suspect)  LOL   

quote author=bbussey link=topic=39743.msg486869#msg486869 date=1470172386]
@Shipsure — THIS blue?



If so, I have the official GATX specs, but I'll have to dig them out as I did this back in 1994.

I also kitbashed a 2600cuft model and painted it in the scheme, so I have the paint specs somewhere.


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Re: Airslide color assist
« Reply #8 on: August 02, 2016, 11:24:48 PM »
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@Spikre — The two models are the same color.  The color balance in the second photo is off.

Joe @Shipsure — from the GATX specs:

Body color — Pantone 291C
Dark blue printing — Pantone 295C
Yellow printing — Pantone 109C
« Last Edit: August 02, 2016, 11:28:52 PM by bbussey »
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Re: Airslide color assist
« Reply #9 on: August 03, 2016, 08:04:47 AM »
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Would you recommend adjusting these colors so that they look truer to the prototype when scaled down?

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Re: Airslide color assist
« Reply #10 on: August 03, 2016, 09:07:43 AM »
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I wouldn't.  You're going to just have to take the modules outside to photograph the models.  :P
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Re: Airslide color assist
« Reply #11 on: August 03, 2016, 10:10:58 AM »
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One thing I would recomend is that these cars faded fast, I would err on the side of a faded color rather then brand new.

THIS.

You now have the Pantone, so you can do with that information what you wish.

But if there's gonna be "err", then err-ing on the faded side of things would be desirable.   Going the other way will yield a garish electric blue color (something like the color shifted pic above) that is harder to fade after the fact.
  That's not suggesting you fade it necessarily...just saying if the color elicits disco music in your head, you might want to shift it down a notch.

I personally feel like the Pantone color--while technically accurate for the real car rolling out of the paint shop--won't look good.

I *do* think you should offer faded paint jobs too, but not trying to fight that battle here.   If you released a car that looks like that Tangent photo, I'd be happy.  (and maybe that one is faded some?  could be argued)

All these are, of course, my opinions.    ;)
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Re: Airslide color assist
« Reply #12 on: August 03, 2016, 12:57:11 PM »
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However, if a modeler wants a faded car, he/she can break out the airbrush and fade it.  If someone wants a new car, you can't "unfade" a factory-faded model.  Better to go "as new" and let the modeler decide, or offer a faded version in the weathered series.
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Re: Airslide color assist
« Reply #13 on: August 03, 2016, 02:12:49 PM »
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 :)
  Brian,
    am just commenting on the way the colors are showing
   on the screen.
   maybe someday will see the cars in person,havnt seen
   WC Tower since it was rebuilt,so that is on the agenda
   eventually.
      Spikre
        ;)

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Re: Airslide color assist
« Reply #14 on: August 03, 2016, 03:48:15 PM »
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I wouldn't expect Joe to offer a pre-faded car, but it would be cool to alter the pantone color slightly to create a color that better matches how the prototype appears.  For example, even if both an exact color prototype and model were indoors, the prototype would appear lighter since it is reflecting back an enormous amount of light compared to the model.

I'm sure @GaryHinshaw can work through the math.