Joe, another runner pack idea...

[daniel_leavitt2000]

Part 2: Availco/Erie Western/MILW

Erie Western 40
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=3358741
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=3358745
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=3358747
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1376174
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/misc-e/acwx200046alx.jpg
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/misc-e/ewz200066alb.jpg

Erie Western 45
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=3358759

Erie Western/Preferred 45
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=3358764
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=3879801

Preferred 45
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=2355577
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=41087
http://www.qstation.org/Intermodal_ATSF/TOFC_COFC_Cars/TOFC_COFC_Cars_02.jpg

MILW/Preferred 45
https://www.flickr.com/photos/dlanek/9131894476/sizes/o/

Preferred 102
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=4119387
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=4154644
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=3942145
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=3942146
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=3942147
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=4154642
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=4154643
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=4154647
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=3358975

[Ed Kapuscinski]

I like this one:
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=741500

But I'd also love to see some of the ones right BEHIND it too (you know, white with little reporting marks).

[daniel_leavitt2000]

The billboards were neat, but they appear to be a little rare. Still worth doing though. The trailer is a better match for the Atlas Pines, but I think this may be a better project for MTL because they are more likely to use resin details like refrigeration and fuel tanks. This may best be a one or two off item rather than a runner pack.

Its sad to see how far Transamerica has shrank. At one point in the EARLY 80's, they had a massive intermodal trailer fleet, an international airline and ownership of United Artists Pictures.

Ed, I'll be working on Schneider and JB Hunt next. Both had big fleets in the 80's as well.

[Ed Kapuscinski]

Mmmmm.

I'm really digging this thread. Thanks for the great info Daniel.

[James Costello]

But I'd also love to see some of the ones right BEHIND it too (you know, white with little reporting marks).

Martrac - one of the easiest modelling projects. Ever.

[jagged ben]

...
Ed, I'll be working on Schneider and JB Hunt next. Both had big fleets in the 80's as well.

I think you mean 90s, unless you're referring to before they were on trains.

[JoeD]

Thanks for the info...copied and forwarded to the front office. 

Joe

Joe, have you thought about doing lease trailers in 4 or 5 packs? All these Trainworx, BLMA and Atlas TOFC cars won't fill themselves you know.

While Trainworx has some great 70's era trailers, and Atlas has the very nice Pines, the MTL Fruehauf were very common right into the early 2000's. Here are some ideas:

Availco "Prefered 45 and Prefered 102" 45'
Tip Intermodal 45'
Tip Lease 48'
Transamerica 45' "medium T"
Transamerica 45' "big T"
Transamerica 48' Pyramid
Transamerica 48' Simplified
Redon 48'
Xtra Lease 45' and 48'
Xtra Intermodal 45' and 48'
Xtra yellow/red vertical logo
Xtra blue underline
JB Hunt 48' yellowtail
JB Hunt 48' whitetail
Schneider orange thin logo 48'
Schneider National white 48'
Schneider National orange 48'

White 48' with reflective stripes (makes decaling easy and would also fill in a generic box vans on the layout)

[daniel_leavitt2000]

Ben you are correct. While Schneider was a carrier since 1935, they didn't add intermodal until 1991. Still, these trailers were all over the US. Lets take a look.

Part 3: Schneider National

Orange Early 48
http://www.hankstruckpictures.com/pix/trucks/donq/schneider_int_9670.html
http://www.hankstruckpictures.com/pix/trucks/donq/schneider_int_9670_2.html
http://www.hankstruckpictures.com/pix/trucks/donq/schneider_int_4070b_2.html
http://www.hankstruckpictures.com/pix/trucks/dfaust/2005/may09/bc_p1010221.html
http://www.hankstruckpictures.com/pix/trucks/donq/schneider_int_9670_110_3.html
https://www.flickr.com/photos/truckerchris/3372895973/sizes/z/


White 48
http://www.hankstruckpictures.com/pix/trucks/donq/schneider_int_9700.html
http://www.hankstruckpictures.com/pix/trucks/mike_boyd/2007/12-10/schneider_ih_9670_van_in_89.html
https://www.flickr.com/photos/truckerchris/3372895973/sizes/z/

Orange Modern 48
http://www.hankstruckpictures.com/pix/trucks/michael_cereghino/2011/03-12/3rd_truck_4122_1st_trip.jpg
http://www.hankstruckpictures.com/pix/trucks/michael_cereghino/2011/03-12/4th_truck_9691_flatfloor_intl..jpg
http://www.hankstruckpictures.com/pix/trucks/dfaust/2007/01-28/bc_schneider-9670-001.html
http://www.hankstruckpictures.com/pix/trucks/jim_steele/feb2002/schneider_nat_kw_oo.jpg (48or 53)
http://www.hankstruckpictures.com/pix/trucks/mike_boyd/2007/12-10/schneider_ih_9670_van_pa_89.html

[OldEastRR]

Mark,

I'm glad that you brought this up, although we should probably take this to another thread.  For a while now, I've been thinking about how I can only fit one 45' trailer on my BLMA and Atlas 89' flats with the hitch set in the factory position.  Does anyone know or have a resource on how to reposition the hitches as the prototype did when they created the Twin 45 cars?

DFF

I remember  seeing long trailers with their hitch on the "rear" of one TOFC flat and their wheels on the "front" of another, with the trailer body bridging the space over the couplers. This left room on both cars for two more over-length trailers.

[daniel_leavitt2000]

You are thinking of a "Tripple 57" flat that used a drawbar connected pair of 89' flats to load 3 53' trailers, 3 48' trailers, 4 40' or 6 28' vans. These had a designation of TTEX

Note: while the lead flat can be a flush deck or channel side, All trailing flats had to be flush decks to allow the trailer to radius between the cars on curves.

KTTX cars had hitches placed on the extreme of each end, allowing end-to-end loading of two 45' trailers.

RTTX cars are the same as KTTX with an additional center mounted collapsible hitch to allow loading of 3 28' trailers. This was by far the most common flat after the mid 90's.

[tehachapifan]

You are thinking of a "Tripple 57" flat that used a drawbar connected pair of 89' flats to load 3 53' trailers, 3 48' trailers, 4 40' or 6 28' vans. These had a designation of TTEX

Note: while the lead flat can be a flush deck or channel side, All trailing flats had to be flush decks to allow the trailer to radius between the cars on curves.

KTTX cars had hitches placed on the extreme of each end, allowing end-to-end loading of two 45' trailers.

RTTX cars are the same as KTTX with an additional center mounted collapsible hitch to allow loading of 3 28' trailers. This was by far the most common flat after the mid 90's.

Daniel's got it laid out nicely but there's a couple of minor corrections or additions regarding the TTEX cars (thread drift warning).....

The earlier TTEX cars in the TTEX 161XXX number range were called "Triple-57/Long-Runners" and were made from two channel-side cars, one of which almost always had a wider "bulge" section for the spanning trailer's bogies as can be seen here:

http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=20534

These cars had a total of (2) fixed hitches on the ends and (3) collapsible intermediate hitches which allowed these cars to carry (3) 48'-57' trailers (with one spanning platforms) or (4) 28'-45' trailers.

TTEX cars in the 353XXX and 354XXX number range are known as "Triple-53/Long-Runners" and are made from either two flush-deck flats or from a channel-side and a flush-deck (the spanning trailer's bogies always go on the flush-deck side with this combination as Daniel stated). These cars are set up with (3) fixed hitches only as can be seen here:

http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=48036

TTEX cars in the 357XXX number range are made up from two flush-deck flats and have a total of (6) hitches, at least (3) of which are collapsible as seen here:

http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=5239

It is my understanding that these are the only TTEX cars that can carry (6) 28' trailers, although there were at least at one time some two-platform RTTX cars that could carry (6) 28' trailers too.

[jagged ben]

I know it's not a Pines or a Freuhauf, but Strick Lease Intermodal was really common in the late 80s, too.

[daniel_leavitt2000]

I know it's not a Pines or a Freuhauf, but Strick Lease Intermodal was really common in the late 80s, too.

I saw one of those a few years ago as a storage trailer. I wish I took photos. 
Strick Lease was merged into Xtra in 1992 I believe.

Only a few photos are online:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/115491114@N07/13902266126/sizes/o/
http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o227/CACHman14/skrz250336.jpg

Love old Xtra schemes:
http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o227/CACHman14/xtrz298178.jpg
http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o227/CACHman14/xtrz236720.jpg

How about this:
http://nowflip.rrpicturearchives.net/pictures/16710/Photo_2006_10_24_1_50_44_edited.jpg

[tehachapifan]

Sure love those billboard trailers. Anyone know why the billboard-style graphics on trailers went out-of-vogue?  I can come up with some ideas or guesses as to why but I don't know if any of them are accurate or not. I guess the same thing happened to freight cars even before trailers cars but I don't know if that was for the same reason(s) either. My best guess is whatever value there was in advertising and/or company pride did not equal or exceed the cost to apply and maintain these graphics. Or was it simply because of a pool concept versus companies owning their own fleets of trailers?

[jagged ben]

I saw one of those a few years ago as a storage trailer. I wish I took photos. 
Strick Lease was merged into Xtra in 1992 I believe.

Only a few photos are online:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/115491114@N07/13902266126/sizes/o/
http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o227/CACHman14/skrz250336.jpg

Here's a good close up of half of one:
http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=130274

Cornucopia also had some great billboard schemes.