Hope for a P70?

[towl1996]

And this was also HO scale, not N.

Doh!  I was racking my brain trying to figure out who announced the H. I knew it was too good...Talk about low hanging fruit.

I agree with Max...  The Minitrix stuff just barely counts and it needs so much work.

+1

Pennsy and steam go together like spaghetti and meatballs.  You can't think of one without the other.

[chicken45]

Yes, but at the very least we do currently have a path to a modern P70.

There are other huge gaps in Pennsy availability, starting with anything steam.

But we DO have a cattle car...with sounds! It's cool that it's out there. I'd put it on the bottom of a list of things we need/want, but it's cool it's there and likely isn't taking away from other stuff. They probably just "tacked it on" to their HO offering.

[bbussey]

... The point is that on several occasions, a faction of uninformed, critical consumers poisoned the well. And this was also HO scale, not N. ...

It happens in N also.  The unfortunate occurrences are not limited to one scale.

[chicken45]

It happens in N also.  The unfortunate occurrences are not limited to one scale.

Oh, I'm sure it happens in all scales, but in the specific instance of the story I heard, it was HO. I had to clarify because Towl1996 thought I was talking about N scale and the upcoming GHB brass L1.

Bryan, what are some of the more insane things customers have said to you? Has anyone asked you to do a K4?

[garethashenden]

Since I'm NOT a Pennsy modeler, but notice that the K4 comes up quite regularly, a question:

How many other roads had locos with similar wheel spacings?  Never mind the type of pilot/trailing trucks, or boiler/cab shape, or tender, just the basic mechanism?  Would there be enough others that a K4 chassis could be repurposed for multiple models?

The Boston & Maine P4 has the same driver diameter/driver spacing as the K4.

[bbussey]

Oh, I'm sure it happens in all scales, but in the specific instance of the story I heard, it was HO. I had to clarify because Towl1996 thought I was talking about N scale and the upcoming GHB brass L1.

Bryan, what are some of the more insane things customers have said to you? Has anyone asked you to do a K4?

I haven't been asked regarding a K-4 or any type of motive power, most likely because ESM hasn't released a locomotive model so the assumption is that it would be a wasted request.  But we've gotten requests for some prototypes that just aren't feasible, not for ESM to do anyway.  I've been asked about Pennsy prototypes, most likely because two of our four tooled models are of Pennsy prototypes.  And, the fact that we already have tooled two Pennsy cars is a detriment against tooling the G38/G39 cars to be honest.  Not a deal-breaker, but a detriment nonetheless.

It definitely happens in all scales.  I'm not at liberty to reveal specifics because it's privileged information that involves other manufacturers, but suffice to say that it happens enough that they disturbingly are not isolated incidents.  Suffice to say, sometimes the modeling community is its own worst enemy.

[Dave V]

Bryan,

Seems to me, anyway, that anyone who deals with model railroaders knows that we have a disproportionate population of complete jackasses.  Is there no way to "filter the clutter" as we might say in radar terms?

[chicken45]

Let me be the first to suggest a K4 from ESM! Haha!

[bbussey]

Bryan,

Seems to me, anyway, that anyone who deals with model railroaders knows that we have a disproportionate population of complete jackasses.  Is there no way to "filter the clutter" as we might say in radar terms?

Sadly no, because sometimes the "clutter" from said jackasses makes its way into the mainstream conscience with negative consequences.  One of the downsides of the Internet.  The estimate is that about 10% of the N scale consumer base is online, but that's enough to affect the outcome of projects.

[dougnelson]

I'm late to respond because I am still recovering for the PRRT&HS annual meeting last weekend.  The BLI HO P70 announcement came out a day or two prior, an it was hard walking down the hallways without getting slimed as you pass the HO SPFs.

However, in the model room there was a great exposition of PRR N scale work from Josh, Claus, and myself.  Josh in particular brought in a ton of his excellent PRR N scale work.  The HO guys were also drooling (I wish they would wear bibs) over my N scale Baldwin Transfer unit (kit from Shapeways and James Norris).  That loco, which is on everyone's wish list, is not available in HO (except in brass that runs like crap and was available in the vendor room for $1,200).

Yes, N scale SPFs are relatively lucky and should be thankful, but yes we will also want more and more and these forums are here to enjoy the hobby and piss people off.

Bryan, I am looking forward to the Rapido NH Osgood Bradley cars and the FL9.  I imagine that the B&M guys are also envious of you NH guys.  Its all relative.

[bbussey]

Yes, it's all relative, but I have never posted about a perceived lack of available N scale New Haven models ... because "some" is better than "none" and there always are roads with fewer available models. I'm thankful for what is there, and if I want something badly enough, I will build it.

[Dave V]

I'll tell you what.  I'll quit bellyaching for an RTR K4 up to 21st century standards, but it'll cost ya...  My new deafening whine will be for an N scale Colorado Midland Hanrahan reefer!



No one even does decals in N for this...   

[chicken45]

Heh. In fact, Doug, Claus, and myself were the ONLY N scalers who had models in that room.
I alone accounted for nearly 30% of all models. Maybe I overdid it 

[VonRyan]

I'll tell you what.  I'll quit bellyaching for an RTR K4 up to 21st century standards, but it'll cost ya...  My new deafening whine will be for an N scale Colorado Midland Hanrahan reefer!



No one even does decals in N for this...   

You find me detailed blueprints and more photos of that beauty, and I'll forward it to my CAD guy to get started on right after the FM-class flatcar.
I'm a sucker for wood-sided reefers and thing looks too awesome for me to not consider making some.

[bbussey]

I'll tell you what.  I'll quit bellyaching for an RTR K4 up to 21st century standards, but it'll cost ya...  My new deafening whine will be for an N scale Colorado Midland Hanrahan reefer!



No one even does decals in N for this...   

You can use any of the old-time 36' reefer models as a core, etch new brass sides, and output decals on an Alps printer.