Close the book on the CC SW1500...

[u18b]

Now, if someone can find the plans for the erroneous Trix "U28C."
No U28Cs look just like the model.

The model is a second version of the U30C (sometimes called phase 1b I think).

I wonder if the plans are in the same book?

[wcfn100]

Now, if someone can find the plans for the erroneous Trix "U28C."
No U28Cs look just like the model.

There is a drawing or the U28C but it's not as detailed or dimensioned.  What could stand out from the incorrect model that would show up on the drawing?

Another oddity is a page for the GE U56C.  I don't think I've ever heard of it.

Jason

[Spikre]

 
   GE U56C,seems to be a miss-print of U50C.
  Athearn not only did the DD40,but totally hosed their SW1500 of 1966/67.
  what they made was close to the long gone SW7,and later in the 90s when
  they did a real SW1500 did start calling it an SW7.
   am sure there are others out there in most popular scales.
      Spikre
       

[wcfn100]

 
   GE U56C,seems to be a miss-print of U50C.

No, both are in there and the U56C has a locomotive rating of 5600hp (as opposed to 5000hp).  Probably another cataloged locomotive that was never made.

Jason

[u18b]

There is a drawing or the U28C but it's not as detailed or dimensioned.  What could stand out from the incorrect model that would show up on the drawing?

Jason

U28C.  Notice the "notch" at the front of the radiator section.  Also, 5 radiators showing through screen.



Here is a clearer shot of a U28C.


U30C first phase- just like U28C.  Short notch at the radiators.  This was a U30C demo unit.




Next phase of U30C.  phase 1b.
Notice the notch is long.  I know of no U28C that looks this way.





Trix U28C.  Long notch.  It is really a U30C phase 1b.

[Rich_S]

If I remember correctly, the only reason why the early SWs has the wide hood was because the 567 was much wider than the 645.

That is not true. The V bank on the 567, 645 and 710 are all 45 degrees. You maybe thinking of the 201A? The V bank on the 201A was 60 degrees, making it a wider block than the 567. The only real difference between the 567 and 645 is, the 645 has a one inch larger bore than the 567 and the 710 has a one inch longer stroke than the 645. But even with these differences, EMD maintained the same diesel engine deck height on all three models. So why are the diesel engines given the numbers of 567, 645 and 710? The number is the cubic inch displacement of each cylinder.   

[daniel_leavitt2000]

Why was the hood so wide? If not for the engine, could it be for the radiator?

I always wanted to know what was up with that hole forward of the radiators on that Trix U-something.

[wcfn100]

U28C.  Notice the "notch" at the front of the radiator section.

This drawing has the small notch that matches the U28Cs you've posted.  The only noticeable thing that's weird is that the drawing only has three steps instead of four.  I'm assuming that's an anomaly.

Jason

[nkalanaga]

Then the NP, always the weird one of the Hill Lines, had 12 U28Cs in U25C bodies, numbered 2800 - 2811.  To make matters worse, 2809 - 2811 were built as 3,000 Hp locomotives, technically making them U30Cs, but still in U25C bodies.  The NP never owned a U28C that looked like one, or a true U30C.

I'm looking forward to the new Hornby U25C, as it should work for all of the NP's 6-axle GEs except the U33C.  Oddly, the GN never owned a U25C, U26C, or U30C, only the U33C.

Since Kato has the late U30C, and the major difference is the radiator section, I keep hoping they'll make the U33C/U36C, but it seems increasingly unlikely...

[Spikre]

 
   what year was the U56C proposed ?
   was that to top the HP of Alco's C855 ?
   later Alco did propose the C860.
   was this some sort of one upmanship between Alco and GE ?
   neither was built,,,but have read somewhere that at least one
   U50C was rated near 5500 HP for awhile.
    U30C Demo ?
   there was the U30C XR in flashy paint delivered to L&N around 1973,
   but don't recall any U30C Demos.
       Spikre
         

[Spikre]

 
   the Grids showing thru the screens in U-Boats and most C-Boats are the
   Dynamic Brake Grids,or if none are there the loco is Non-Dynamic equipped.
   the Radiators are Above the Openings,sort of in the roof of those GEs.
   the Radiator Fans are below the radiators,and can be seen easier on the
  non-Dynamic units,if the screens aren't covered with leaves or other debree.
      Spikre
       

[Rich_S]

Why was the hood so wide? If not for the engine, could it be for the radiator?

I always wanted to know what was up with that hole forward of the radiators on that Trix U-something.

Daniel, What hood are you referring to? From what I've seen, the hoods on SW9's, SW1200's, SW1001's, SW1500's and MP15DC's are all about the same width. I've not seen a SW1 but just going by photos I've seen, it looks like it has the same hood width as all the other EMD switchers.   

[u18b]

........... (peeks in door to see if it is safe).....

(Rich doesn't know the flammability of his question yet)




........(steps out of room looking for safer environs.....)   

[daniel_leavitt2000]

Daniel, What hood are you referring to? From what I've seen, the hoods on SW9's, SW1200's, SW1001's, SW1500's and MP15DC's are all about the same width.

You must work for Microtrains. Spoiler alert: All switchers before the SW1000/1001/1500 are about a foot wider than the SW1000/1001/1500/MP15

[Leggy]

Curious to see the U56C. ALCo did propose a C660 in one of their catalogs but never ended up building it.