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Kato C44-9W too short ?
« on: April 20, 2014, 08:50:26 AM »
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The model chassis bolster center measures 44 feet , the proto is 53 feet .
The overall model length is 70 feet , the proto is 73 feet .

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Re: Kato C44-9W too short ?
« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2014, 10:35:02 AM »
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Wow almost 2 hours without a fight breaking out.  :facepalm:

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Re: Kato C44-9W too short ?
« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2014, 11:21:22 AM »
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The model chassis bolster center measures 44 feet , the proto is 53 feet .
The overall model length is 70 feet , the proto is 73 feet .

So the LONG shank couplers were a cover up attempt? :trollface:
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Re: Kato C44-9W too short ?
« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2014, 11:29:34 AM »
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I just measured one of mine from the front anticlimber to the back tip of the walkway. It came to 5.443" which scales out to 72.57 feet.

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Re: Kato C44-9W too short ?
« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2014, 12:16:34 PM »
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I just measured one of mine from the front anticlimber to the back tip of the walkway. It came to 5.443" which scales out to 72.57 feet.

Ed

Remeasured mine , 71.5 not including drop step . The problem I have is the bolster centers ( not the truck or pick-up centers ) . I guess Kato made up the space in truck length or something . Longer wheelbase needed for the bashed BL-2 transfer project . Just ordered a SD-90MAC which should have bolster centers of 54 feet . This is getting expensive . Please , somebody tell me the 90MAC is la longer bolster center than the C44-9W ?

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Re: Kato C44-9W too short ?
« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2014, 12:27:09 PM »
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Wish I could help you on the 90MAC, but I don't have any.   BTW, where do you get your proto dimensions?

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Re: Kato C44-9W too short ?
« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2014, 12:31:10 PM »
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The model chassis bolster center measures 44 feet , the proto is 53 feet .
The overall model length is 70 feet , the proto is 73 feet .


You need to understand what prototype measurement you're using first before trying to apply it to a model.

'Overall length' is measured from the inside pulling faces of the couplers.

Bolster centers are just that... the center of the bolster or mounting pin.  However, on six axle trucks, bolsters are rarely centered.  Get into tri-mount and bolsterless trucks, and the mounting pin is nowhere near the center of the truck.

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Re: Kato C44-9W too short ?
« Reply #7 on: April 20, 2014, 12:36:30 PM »
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Wish I could help you on the 90MAC, but I don't have any.   BTW, where do you get your proto dimensions?

Ed

From here mostly http://www.thedieselshop.us/DataC44-9.HTML

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Re: Kato C44-9W too short ?
« Reply #8 on: April 20, 2014, 01:08:06 PM »
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Not sure if this helps.


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Re: Kato C44-9W too short ?
« Reply #9 on: April 20, 2014, 01:19:12 PM »
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Yea , that sure does . Assuming the truck are the same , the SD-90 on top is 3.5 ish truck lengths long , and the lower photo of the C44-9w is 3ish truck lengths long . That proves it and I will have a chassis for the BL-2 bash transfer unit . Thanks   .

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Re: Kato C44-9W too short ?
« Reply #10 on: April 20, 2014, 03:06:50 PM »
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The model chassis bolster center measures 44 feet , the proto is 53 feet .

The placement of model bolsters do not always match the prototype (for various reasons). The more important question is if the placement of the truck is correct.

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Re: Kato C44-9W too short ?
« Reply #11 on: April 20, 2014, 04:20:03 PM »
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The placement of model bolsters do not always match the prototype (for various reasons). The more important question is if the placement of the truck is correct.

Not if you're a kit-basher with shallow pockets  :oops: , No doubt I will find a project that the C44-9 chassis will work with . Hell , I'll even find use for the details on the out of era shells ." Parts are parts "

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Re: Kato C44-9W too short ?
« Reply #12 on: April 20, 2014, 05:15:08 PM »
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Richie,
I must have missed something earlier. What's the BL-2 bash?

Jon


That proves it and I will have a chassis for the BL-2 bash transfer unit . Thanks   .

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Re: Kato C44-9W too short ?
« Reply #13 on: April 20, 2014, 05:27:13 PM »
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Richie,
I must have missed something earlier. What's the BL-2 bash?

Jon


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Richie, I wish I could lay my hands on it, but in a recent mega-purchase of back issues I remember an article on doing a similar conversion (HO) using two BL2s and three-axle trucks.  The output looked mighty convincing and the slope of the long hoods made it pretty cool looking too.
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After the first transfer the BL-2 bash will happen as was brought up in the Transfer Unit thread .
Chassis from SD-90 , sideframes from SD-9 if they fit .

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Re: Kato C44-9W too short ?
« Reply #14 on: April 20, 2014, 05:45:31 PM »
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Hey that's kinda cool looking!!
I can see it in the BAR tri-color scheme.  :D

Would make a good switcher for Northern Maine jct.  :lol:

What are you going to use for trucks under it? Something from an SD-9 maybe? It would fit the era.

Jon