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[Lemosteam]

John:
Very nice work on the tug. I believe that the stack and hull should be black. I believe that the decks were painted steel. They must have mixed sand into the deck paint for traction. You may inspire me to work on mine.
Doug.

@MK , I know from images of later PRR tugs that they were in fact mostly Tuscan.  The LIRR was their subsidiary and leaned on their color schemes until the late 50's (layout is early to mid 50's) when they wanted their own visual identity.



@dougnelson You might be right on the stack, but I am not convinced on the hull.  That is an easy fix if needed.

I cannot find any definitive color images online, except models and paintings, and this one is similar to the one above.  I will look in my color books to see if I can find any.

[dougnelson]

Hi John:
Here are a couple of color photos of PRR tugs.  I am pretty sure that during this period the LIRR tugs carried the same livery.  At some point in the mid- to late 1950s LIRR tugs were painted orange with the circle LI logo on the stack.

[Lemosteam]

Hi John:
Here are a couple of color photos of PRR tugs.  I am pretty sure that during this period the LIRR tugs carried the same livery.  At some point in the mid- to late 1950s LIRR tugs were painted orange with the circle LI logo on the stack.

Perfect @dougnelson . Looks like I’ve more work to do. Looks like the horizontal roof surfaces were black too. Maybe the deck then too?

[Missaberoad]

Based on  pictures grey would be my guess for the decks.

[wm3798]

So the eternal question is, would the hull and stack be black?  Or is that PRR "not quite black with a hint of green?"  In either case, that will make a much sharper looking model. 


This image definitely gives the stack a darker hue than the cabins, and while the light hitting the hull makes it hard to tell, I would say it's definitely a different color than the cabins.  Much like the ongoing argument about WM round herald hoppers carrying black paint, or a patina of coal over oxide red... a certain amount of modeler's license may be in play here.

I say a nice grimy black for the hull, and a shiny coat of black on the stack, and call it Christmas.

Lee

[Lemosteam]

So the eternal question is, would the hull and stack be black?  Or is that PRR "not quite black with a hint of green?"  In either case, that will make a much sharper looking model. 


This image definitely gives the stack a darker hue than the cabins, and while the light hitting the hull makes it hard to tell, I would say it's definitely a different color than the cabins.  Much like the ongoing argument about WM round herald hoppers carrying black paint, or a patina of coal over oxide red... a certain amount of modeler's license may be in play here.

I say a nice grimy black for the hull, and a shiny coat of black on the stack, and call it Christmas.

Lee

I really see no shine on either color (note the porthole trim ring has a polished shine reflection) so matte black for the stack and flat roof areas, and a filthy black (matte with black weathering) for the hull.  Leaving the deck Tuscan, as I can't see the PRR using a third color.

[garethashenden]

The deck is probably wood. Now is it bare wood with the board gaps tarred to make it watertight or is the whole deck tarred, I'm not sure. I suspect the former, although my thinking is based on warship practices. Do you know the year that it was built?

[Lemosteam]

Post vacation update. I painted all of the suggested areas black. Just need to add some rope, and frayed rope for the bumper style as @John suggested. I like the muddled contrast now, and it is closer to appearing like the proto photo above.

 Color:


Silvertone black and white:

[chessie system fan]

I love it. How grimy to you plan to make it? I would imagine these wouldn't get washed very frequently. 

[Lemosteam]

Based on the photo, I’d say it’s fairly clean. I’ll probably add some gray wash to the sides below the rail, and lots up around the stack. The crews clothes are also pretty clean. I thing they do a lot of deck swabbing!

[Lemosteam]

Copied here from a weekend update for posterity:

John -- there generally are several ropes / lines on the bow and stern that are used to make up to the tow -- this is pretty typical -- the lines would be laid out relatively neat .. also the use of tires as fenders isn't universal - the boat you are modeling has a bow fender mate up of ropes .. https://www.frayedknotarts.com/grudinskas.html  and the other fenders also appear to be made from ropes ..

[Lemosteam]

Ok that’s it. No more dang tugboat!

[dnhouston]

Awesome, awesome job!

[MK]

You need to add a name to the bow and stern.      

[Lemosteam]

@dnhouston thank you.

@MK The “Ubiquitous”.