Bachmann 2-6-0 prototype

[wcfn100]

Wow, nice double standard.


Jason

[victor miranda]

ok  I think I re-read this thread...
I feel lost.

what is the double standard you refer?

[brokemoto]

I can't find anything even close in B&O so I will have to look to PRR or C&O for inspiration when I get mine.

You will not find anything close in B&O.  With the exception of the Chicago moguls (which were essentially 0-6-0s with pilot trucks), the B&O moguls were nineteenth century beasts.  The last ones found the scrapper's torch before the First World War.  B&O did have some 'modern' eight wheelers acquired with swallowed roads that lasted into the 1930s and maybe even into the early 1940s.  None of the swallowed roads had any 'modern' moguls; at least none that lasted any length of time.

[SkipGear]

You and me both!  I started a rant on the Atlas forum about the Bachmann drivers (on all their  recent steam locos) looking toyish (while most other companies manage to model open spokes) but it seems that most modelers (at least on the Atlas forum) didn't think it was a big deal.  We seem to be a small minority. To me, those look like something you would find on a crude childs's toy. Other than that, Bachmann steamers are quite well detailed. Go figure...

Here is a photo comparison. Funny, the lighting in the photo actually makes the Bachmann driver look better than it looks like when viewed in-person: a flat and featureless wheel center with flat spokes. 

For all of you that spoke of spokes. You probably should not have spoke so soon.

The Bachmann 2-6-0 and 4-6-0 both have fine cast open spoke metal wheel centers on their drivers. There are no contact tabs, wheel back or webbing to be seen because it doesn't need it.

[DKS]

For all of you that spoke of spokes. You probably should not have spoke so soon.

The Bachmann 2-6-0 and 4-6-0 both have fine cast open spoke metal wheel centers on their drivers. There are no contact tabs, wheel back or webbing to be seen because it doesn't need it.

That's great news!

[peteski]

That's great news!

+100!

Bachmann is really becoming one of N scale's major players!

[brokemoto]

My intial impressions of this are pretty good, but,,,,,,,,,,,,does anyone here know how to get the tender shell off this thing???

[Chris333]

Phillip,

If you work an exacto blade between the shell and frame that will pop it off. They are pretty tight, I'd start at the front where the wires go in to minimize any visual damage.

[Chris333]

Oh and I must add that I now have one of these and they are very nice. It is my first Bachmann locomotive that didn't need to be completely disassembled and re-built to get it running correctly. And it pulls about 25 cars with ease. 

My only complaint is how far away from the locomotive the valve gear is hung. I'm sure they did this to minimize binding problems so I will live with it.

[randgust]

I saw the mention of B&H 2-6-0 #11 and wanted to put this up.  The locomotive is undergoing (slow) restoration at Cumberland, MD in the WMSR shops.  It is owned by Alan Maples / Everett Railroad, and it's a labor of love.  The locomotive is small enough it 'may' join the trucked restored locomoties for special events, we'll see.

Here's the web page on it with the specifications... a more modern 2-6-0 for sure:

http://www.everettrailroad.com/railfans/11.aspx

Max already put up the specs page.  Wheelbase is different, drivers are 6" smaller

That is about as 'modern' a 2-6-0 out of the builder as you will find, with piston valves, superheaters, and Wal. valve gear.   Here's a comparison 2-6-0 from Lima, 1910, rebuilt with a steel cab; much smaller 48" drivers and Stevenson valve gear:
http://gustafson.home.westpa.net/hv5b.jpg
And that's considered 'modern' even in 1910.

That's the prototype for my Atlas 2-6-0 conversion; a smaller, older 2-6-0.
http://gustafson.home.westpa.net/HVR5038%20final%201.jpg

I'm waiting to see how they powered it in the boiler, I'm assuming a similar design to the 4-6-0.

All I can say is that at this point, I'm still happy with mine, and darn glad I didn't invest a ton of money in producing a kit for my 2-6-0, I'd started to and changed my mind when it looked like it was going to be about $200 worth of stuff.

[Lemosteam]

I'm waiting to see how they powered it in the boiler, I'm assuming a similar design to the 4-6-0.

Randy, see spookshows site- he pulled the boiler off...

http://www.visi.com/~spookshow/loco/spec260.html

[brokemoto]

Thank you.  The more that you take off the tender shell, the easier it comes off.  It has been lettered for my non-historic Short Creek and Nopedale.  I just finished cleaning up the excess setting solution and am waiting for the water to dry before I hit it with the Dull Bomb.

I did notice the slight wobble that Spookshow did.  You must look for it, but it does wobble ever so slightly.  I wonder if it will smooth out with operation.  It will not pull what a modified MP mogul will, but it does what I want it to do.  I will give Bachpersonn a 'W' on this  one.  The slow speed on a MRC 2800 is very good.  I purchased mine for Star Hobby of Annapolis, which deals heavily in Bachmann.  They had the best price on these that I have seen anywhere.  I have not seen this on MBK yet, but Star Hobby has beat MBK on B-mann prices more than once.

I would recommend this to anyone.

[Chris333]

If I stop it and spin the drivers I can get the same wobble that Mark showed in his video. But when running I don't notice. I think it could just be an out of round traction tire.

Mine pulls more than it looks like it should and that is stock with no weight added. I'm happy with mine, just wish I had more of a use for it. I'm gonna make up some fake railroad to put on the tender.

[randgust]

Randy, see spookshows site- he pulled the boiler off...

http://www.visi.com/~spookshow/loco/spec260.html

Wow, a pager motor....or sure looks like one.   

Putting that much bearing torque from a worm on a 'typical' front-bearing pager motor (plastic casting only) has been considered to be doom in the past.   Anybody see if it has real motor bearings on it?   The double-ended 12v - Kato-style motor in the Bachmann 44-ton does it, but this is a pretty small motor.  Wow.

[SkipGear]

It's not a pager motor. It's based on the hi-torque coreless motors that have grown in availability due to the micro RC heli industry. We hardly ever seen worn bearings in the heli's at the shop. They get put through a lot more abuse than we ever will in a model railroad situation. Usually the demise of a heli motor is worn out brushes.