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Re: Trackplan Help
« Reply #15 on: July 08, 2010, 11:06:55 AM »
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WOW Just like that. I love it. Thank-you so much David
It has everything I wanted. I love the rail crossing/abandon track Idea. I already have a great Idea for the trestle bridge. I think that will be the show piece of the layout. I just hope I can do the plan justice. What I also really like is how you kept the station at the front of the layout. I think the kids will really like this part of the plan stopping and starting from the station.
I'm wrapped  :) Thanks again
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Glad you like it. Now for the fine print. What track were you thinking of using? Atlas Code 80? Code 55? Flex or all sectional?

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Re: Trackplan Help
« Reply #16 on: July 08, 2010, 11:08:12 AM »
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I think you should look at flipping the yard the other way to reduce the sawback move required to get to the industrial area.  This will also allow for one of the siding tracks to not have to be fouled with every move in or out of the yard.

Also use the same lead for the shops as the turntable.  

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Re: Trackplan Help
« Reply #17 on: July 08, 2010, 11:21:34 AM »
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I think you should look at flipping the yard the other way to reduce the sawback move required to get to the industrial area.  This will also allow for one of the siding tracks to not have to be fouled with every move in or out of the yard.

Also use the same lead for the shops as the turntable.  

Jason

The siding to the left of the yard that runs under the bridge is the yard lead, not an industry.
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Re: Trackplan Help
« Reply #18 on: July 08, 2010, 11:32:20 AM »
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I'm talking about the industries along the river.  It would take five moves from the yard which would foul both the main and the siding and has a long run around.  Flipping the yard could reduce that to two moves, no run around, and leave the siding closest to the yard open for some sort of A/D track.



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Re: Trackplan Help
« Reply #19 on: July 08, 2010, 12:22:19 PM »
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I'm talking about the industries along the river.  It would take five moves from the yard which would foul both the main and the siding and has a long run around.  Flipping the yard could reduce that to two moves, no run around, and leave the siding closest to the yard open for some sort of A/D track.

Maybe I'm just dense, but why do you want to join the yard and the industrial area at the hip? I see them as two separate entities, perhaps even at two different locations (from a logistics standpoint) on the mainline. Make trains in the yard, take them out on the main. A couple of laps later, work the industries. Repeat.

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Re: Trackplan Help
« Reply #20 on: July 08, 2010, 01:19:27 PM »
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that is very awesome - and it would fit in my space!  great flow and it takes the best parts of the original, a plan i had been looking over for a bout 2 weeks now.  it's not too late for me to start over.  it would block the sump pump room door  ;D

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Re: Trackplan Help
« Reply #21 on: July 08, 2010, 01:38:27 PM »
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Well, I'm not sure how far you would want to deviate from the original plan, but based on the kinds of things you want to accomplish, I might recommend something like this:
 


I believe it has all of the elements you want, and I think they're arranged so as to provide a little more drama. I twisted the mainline to create a long, dramatic trestle that crosses the main, some sidings and a river. A disused crossing, with abandoned track on one leg, I think adds an interesting little scene. The enginehouse and future roundhouse are brought in front of the yard, so they're more easily seen and more accessible. Grades are simple, with one on each end to raise the main over itself; otherwise, everything is flat. Staging could perhaps one day be added along the back on a narrow extension, if that becomes something of interest.

What a great track plan David!

You created some nice scenic/photo opportunities.

EXCELLENT job David!!! And quick too!!!


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Re: Trackplan Help
« Reply #22 on: July 08, 2010, 03:05:27 PM »
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that is very awesome - and it would fit in my space!  great flow and it takes the best parts of the original, a plan i had been looking over for a bout 2 weeks now.  it's not too late for me to start over.  it would block the sump pump room door  ;D

And best of all, no curved switches.

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Re: Trackplan Help
« Reply #23 on: July 08, 2010, 03:39:28 PM »
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I would love to see more photos from your Version IV plan.

The trouble is, the layout is gone, and every image I have (or had) of it is already online. Every image, that is, except for a small collection of slides that I'm not allowed to show, because they're owned by Kalmbach.

Now, as long as you promise not to tell anyone--particularly anyone at Kalmbach--I'll let you have a peek at them.

http://whiteriverandnorthern.net/gallery_4.htm

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Re: Trackplan Help
« Reply #24 on: July 08, 2010, 04:38:33 PM »
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     THE RAILWIRE
A forum for trackplans

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Re: Trackplan Help
« Reply #25 on: July 08, 2010, 10:48:29 PM »
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Glad you like it. Now for the fine print. What track were you thinking of using? Atlas Code 80? Code 55? Flex or all sectional?

Here are some of the things I have decided on but I am willing to change for better alternatives.
I thought I would use mostly Peco 80 flex track and Peco 80 turnouts  . The reason for this is that's what Brand my local hobby shop stocks and I hear code 80 is less forgiving. I also read that using sectional track in tunnels is a good option aswell (less chance of derailments).

I would love to see more photos from your Version IV plan.

The trouble is, the layout is gone, and every image I have (or had) of it is already online. Every image, that is, except for a small collection of slides that I'm not allowed to show, because they're owned by Kalmbach.

Now, as long as you promise not to tell anyone--particularly anyone at Kalmbach--I'll let you have a peek at them.

http://whiteriverandnorthern.net/gallery_4.htm

Man that's a nice layout. Such a shame it's gone. Would have love to see some video of trains running on it.
Thanks for the bonus photos

Paul
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Re: Trackplan Help
« Reply #26 on: July 10, 2010, 06:24:37 AM »
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One thing I haven't spoken about yet is the Name, Location and the Era

Location
I have decided to model the layout after the St. Louis Southwestern Railway. I have read a little bit about the railway and I think it will suit my layout. I am just going to pick a few places/names around the St. Louis area to give to my Industries/station/scenery. Also I know this is a bad reason for deciding but I like the paint scheme of the SSW locos.
Some locations I have already decided on are -
The Station - St. Louis Union Station
The Yard and Staging area - East St. Louis Cotton Belt Yard

Era
I have chosen 1952.
I knew I always want to model this era mainly because I like all the old advertising signs and buildings of this time.
Also I read this on wiki
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The Cotton Belt began a series of passenger train cutbacks in the early 1950s. The railroad had 25 steam engines and four gas electric motor cars available for passenger service in 1949. By late 1952 nine diesels had replaced the steam locomotives and motorcars and passenger train mileage had been trimmed considerably. The last Cotton Belt passenger train, #8 operated on November 30, 1959 from Pine Bluff, Arkansas to East St. Louis, Illinois.
So my thought was if I make it 1952 I can still run some steam engines and some diesels if I want . Also the passenger service was still running.

Name of the Layout
Still can't decided
The best I come up with was THE EAST ST. LOUIS DIVISION
Please post your Ideas

My Original plan was to model the Southern Pacific Donner Pass Area but l changed once I started reading about the St. Louis Southwestern Railway.

Paul
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Re: Trackplan Help
« Reply #27 on: July 10, 2010, 10:02:31 AM »
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The best I come up with was THE EAST ST. LOUIS DIVISION


you might want to call it something else.  east st. louis draws a mental picture of strip clubs and depression for many who have visited the area.  how about the gateway division


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Re: Trackplan Help
« Reply #28 on: July 10, 2010, 10:28:48 AM »
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The best I come up with was THE EAST ST. LOUIS DIVISION


you might want to call it something else.  east st. louis draws a mental picture of strip clubs and depression for many who have visited the area.  how about the gateway division



I'm not sure it matters.

I model a sub on the Penn Central, and the PC certainly doesn't conjure up the warm & fuzzy railroad thoughts for most people, but history is what history is. 

A lot of what railroads touched was dirty, decrepit & in some cases seedy. 

I have a friend who was an engineer on the PRR, PC & CR from '55 to '97 and he's mentioned several times that it wasn't coincidental that there were many bars located near where railroad workers worked... And if the city allowed strip clubs, I'm pretty sure I know where they would be located too.  ;)

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Re: Trackplan Help
« Reply #29 on: July 10, 2010, 05:08:25 PM »
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The best I come up with was THE EAST ST. LOUIS DIVISION

you might want to call it something else.  east st. louis draws a mental picture of strip clubs and depression for many who have visited the area.  how about the gateway division

Thanks for the heads up. Even though I kinda like the Idea of modeling a strip club area  :o I don't think it would suit my layout.
There is a Pub in my home town called The Gateway Hotel that kinda stirs up the same mental pictures as East St Louis, so I might have to give that one a miss as well.

How about these
Valley Junction http://www.railroadforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17499
The Valley Junction Division
SSW Valley Junction (My new Favorite)
St. Louis Valley Junction


I have also decided on the bridge that runs though the layout
MacArthur Bridge (St. Louis) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacArthur_Bridge_%28St._Louis%29


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