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Re: Franksville Wisconsin MiNi Mod-U-Trak modules buildout
« Reply #60 on: January 23, 2009, 07:42:39 PM »
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How about a MDF track subsurface with foam below, and regular ribs of MDF between the foam supports, perpendicular to the subsurface and attached to it and frame surface top? Say every 6 inches?

MDF is heavy--I'd certainly suggest trying plywood instead.

However, if you've got MDF or plywood "cookie-cutter" on top, there's no reason not to use foam for the support underneath. The solid surface will spread out any crushing forces, more than enough to protect the foam.

Basically, anything that can dent a solidly-glued 1/4" plywood over 2" foam "sandwich" will be quite adequate to destroy anything on top of of the sandwich on its way through. :)
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Re: Franksville Wisconsin MiNi Mod-U-Trak modules buildout
« Reply #61 on: January 28, 2009, 04:54:26 PM »
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Not a very exciting update, but I got Tortoise switch machines wired and installed. I have to make the connections to power them and also the RCA jack switch controls that we use (next installment hopefully). I took some photos along the way, but didn't intend to make this a step by step piece on installing Tortoise switch machines. However I have enough here to give you an idea of what you would be up against if you've never installed one of these before - it's pretty easy.

First the kit comes with a piece of stiff wire, a screw to hold it in place, the switch machine itself, a plasic slider piece that can be used to adjust the fulcrum point (see second photo below) and detailed instructions.

The first thing I did was bend the wire according to their diagram on the instruction sheet:



Since the tracks sit on 2" inches of Masonite spline we need to use longer wire to reach the turnout throw bar. So we found some music wire in the same diameter that came in two foot lengths that we can cut up to use instead. You can use a pair of pliers to bend the wire to the correct shape. You will trim the extra off after you install it.

Here is the Tortoise machine with the wires soldiered onto the contacts, the green plastic slider that adjusts the fulcrum point, the locking screw for the wire, and the three bent pieces of wire (since I have three Tortoise machines on this module):



The instruction sheet has a template for drilling pilot holes to mount the unit:



The instructions talk about two ways to mount it, one by very simply screwing in the four screws to attach it, the other involves double sided tape and caulk in addition to the screws to help absorb some of the noise the switch machine makes. I just used a hybrid of putting some double sided foam tape on top and screwing it in. This seems to help with the noise a little bit. I don't think the noise is that big of a deal, but everyone is different. Here it is mounted in place:



Once mounted you can then fish the stiff wire through the hole and plastic fulcrom piece to the turnout throw . Then you just need to attach the locking screw to hold the wire in place on the machine. The Atlas Code 55 turnouts have a hole in the turnout throw bar already, but I ended up making another hole a little closer to the turnout itself as, to me, it looks a little cleaner and moves the wire closer to the trackbed which makes ballasting around it a little easier in my experience.

Here is where I'm at now:



We hook each Tortoise unit up to an individual wiring terminal block so we can more easily troubleshoot  and test any problems that might come up. I need to run power for each Tortoise unit to the individual terminal blocks. After that I'll install the RCA turnout out controls on the front facia of both the aisle and operator side so we have controls on either side of the module. That will be the next step.

So this thing is ready to run trains on it now. Scenery will be coming soon!

-jamie
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Re: Franksville Wisconsin MiNi Mod-U-Trak modules buildout
« Reply #62 on: January 28, 2009, 05:04:50 PM »
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I would tie down the wires a bit more .. otherwise you are going to snag them

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Re: Franksville Wisconsin MiNi Mod-U-Trak modules buildout
« Reply #63 on: January 28, 2009, 05:08:01 PM »
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I have a bunch of final wire dressing to do once everything is in there. That's why I left some of the zip ties with pig tails on them so I can cinch them down once all the wires are attached.

Accidently pulling wires off, especially when you don't realize it, really sucks. :)

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Re: Franksville Wisconsin MiNi Mod-U-Trak modules buildout
« Reply #64 on: February 05, 2009, 10:35:04 AM »
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Well I ran locos on the tracks to test everything and we can run trains on it. :)



I also glued the first Masonite side. I need to do that first before I can put turnout controls in place:



The other side will go on later this afternoon. Hopefully after that I can start working on scenery.
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Re: Franksville Wisconsin MiNi Mod-U-Trak modules buildout
« Reply #65 on: February 05, 2009, 11:53:40 AM »
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lashedup, I'm curious about how you removed the paint from the top of the rail?  It also looks like you managed to paint the turnout switches.  How did you clean that area up to allow good electrical conductivity?

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Re: Franksville Wisconsin MiNi Mod-U-Trak modules buildout
« Reply #66 on: February 05, 2009, 12:38:24 PM »
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ya dude!  it's looking fantastic :) 

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Re: Franksville Wisconsin MiNi Mod-U-Trak modules buildout
« Reply #67 on: February 05, 2009, 12:48:36 PM »
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Are there plans for these modules somewhere?

The build manual will be available from Chuck. ;-)


funny stuff.

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Re: Franksville Wisconsin MiNi Mod-U-Trak modules buildout
« Reply #68 on: February 05, 2009, 12:53:49 PM »
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lashedup, I'm curious about how you removed the paint from the top of the rail?  It also looks like you managed to paint the turnout switches.  How did you clean that area up to allow good electrical conductivity?

I actually use my fingernail to scrape the initial layer of paint off the tops of the rails about 10 minutes after I airbrush it when the paint is still a little soft. Then I follow that up with 1500 grit sandpaper. I try and get paint off the "shoulders" of the rail head by sanding at an angle, particularly on the inside of the rails where the wheels make contact. Overall I've had very little issues and running loco through the trackwork at very slow speeds will often tell you where any potential issues are. I have a few "fussy" locos that are finicky about clean track work that make good testers.

When I paint the turnouts I hit them at an angle to get more paint on the rails and less on everything else. The frog is the only thing I spray directly downward. Anything I miss I touch up later when I paint the individual ties.This is the fifth straight module with turnouts that I've done and I've not had any issues painting turnouts. We've had a few issues with the point rails popping off on the #10 Atlas Code 55 turnouts at the joint connection. My solution so far has been to use clear liquid nails to attach the point rail to the ties right next to the pivot point (but not on the pivot point directly as the point rail need to get its electrical contact there). The Clear Liquid Nails stays a little flexible when it cures and has enough give to allow the point rails to move back and forth with the Tortoise machines.

Hope that make sense! :)

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Re: Franksville Wisconsin MiNi Mod-U-Trak modules buildout
« Reply #69 on: February 05, 2009, 04:16:24 PM »
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Thanks.  I've never painted my track before but I'm thinking about it for my next layout.

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Re: Franksville Wisconsin MiNi Mod-U-Trak modules buildout
« Reply #70 on: February 05, 2009, 04:33:02 PM »
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Thanks.  I've never painted my track before but I'm thinking about it for my next layout.

just to add my two cents.. an option from someone who's a nail biter  ;)  I paint my track with a spray bomb, then use a single edge razor blade to scrape the paint off.. if you don't wanto ruin your Lee press-on's..  ;D ;D

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Re: Franksville Wisconsin MiNi Mod-U-Trak modules buildout
« Reply #71 on: February 05, 2009, 07:01:31 PM »
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That's it! Lee Press-On Nails - you can change them out when you wear one through scraping paint off rails. Someone call Tony Koester and let him know we have something new for his next book!

See - and who said there weren't any new ideas left!  ;D

Then again it might be a bit difficult explaining to my wife why I have Lee Press-On nails...  :P

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Re: Franksville Wisconsin MiNi Mod-U-Trak modules buildout
« Reply #72 on: February 05, 2009, 07:04:18 PM »
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I don't know why I'm thinking about Lee Weldon right now... :-\

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Re: Franksville Wisconsin MiNi Mod-U-Trak modules buildout
« Reply #73 on: February 06, 2009, 11:41:45 AM »
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That's it! Lee Press-On Nails - you can change them out when you wear one through scraping paint off rails. Someone call Tony Koester and let him know we have something new for his next book!

See - and who said there weren't any new ideas left!  ;D

Then again it might be a bit difficult explaining to my wife why I have Lee Press-On nails...  :P

LOL. as long as you don't have to explain the panty hose too..   "um uhh, they're to sift dirt.. seriously!"

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Re: Franksville Wisconsin MiNi Mod-U-Trak modules buildout
« Reply #74 on: February 06, 2009, 11:51:13 AM »
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I don't know why I'm thinking about Lee Weldon right now... :-\

LOL.. good memory..  ;)