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Drop in SOund decoders for Kato deisels
« on: March 15, 2007, 10:27:15 AM »
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I've been running my new challenger on the Rochelle Sub this week and have really enjoyed the sound feature.  Been thinking it would be  nice if there were drop in sound decoders for Kato diesels as I have quite a few of them.  WHile looking at the MRC website searching for info on programming the challenger I noticed that MRC will have drop in decoders for Kato locos.  Loooks like the speaker is mounted on the decoder board so that there is no wiring or milling of the frame.  Does anyone have one of these decoders or know information about them.  I would be interested in learning more than what is listed on the website, especiually, "how do they sound?" 
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Re: Drop in SOund decoders for Kato deisels
« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2007, 10:31:26 AM »
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Wow that looks very cool, I still have an AC4400CW awaiting a decoder, I'll hold out for one of those I think.

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Re: Drop in SOund decoders for Kato deisels
« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2007, 10:38:13 AM »
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decoder mounted speakers ... I'm skeptical about sound quality ...

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Re: Drop in SOund decoders for Kato deisels
« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2007, 10:38:53 AM »
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I wonder if that'll work in my SD-40's...
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Re: Drop in SOund decoders for Kato deisels
« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2007, 12:02:11 PM »
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decoder mounted speakers ... I'm skeptical about sound quality ...

If my engine is three or four feet away, I don't need a room filling rumble. Sound should be 1:160 as well.
I definately give this decoder and the one for P42 a try.


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Re: Drop in SOund decoders for Kato deisels
« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2007, 12:09:48 PM »
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decoder mounted speakers ... I'm skeptical about sound quality ...

If my engine is three or four feet away, I don't need a room filling rumble. Sound should be 1:160 as well.
I definately give this decoder and the one for P42 a try.



Ah but your ears are 1:1  :P

Please let us know the results.

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Re: Drop in SOund decoders for Kato deisels
« Reply #6 on: March 15, 2007, 12:36:09 PM »
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Well, the MRC website says "soon to be available" and "coming in March 2007."  I went ahead and ordered one from Tony's Train Exchange for $63.75 (list is $84.98).  Tony's accepted the order, but I'm not sure if that means they are in stock or I'll get it when they get it.  We'll see.

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Re: Drop in SOund decoders for Kato deisels
« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2007, 02:33:47 PM »
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Re: Drop in SOund decoders for Kato deisels
« Reply #8 on: March 15, 2007, 03:49:45 PM »
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I saw them installed in a Kato P42 at the Kato booth at Springfield. I finally ended hearing it, and it was ok. Nothing earth shaking, but it was reasonable.
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Re: Drop in SOund decoders for Kato deisels
« Reply #9 on: March 15, 2007, 05:20:02 PM »
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POVC has an MRC in a GP38 .. it sounds ok ..

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Re: Drop in SOund decoders for Kato deisels
« Reply #10 on: March 15, 2007, 06:00:16 PM »
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Re: Drop in SOund decoders for Kato deisels
« Reply #11 on: March 15, 2007, 06:04:54 PM »
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POVC has an MRC in a GP38 .. it sounds ok ..

The big question is how does the size of the speaker affect the sound?  Having the speaker in the narrow hood of an AC6000 requires a different sized speaker than in the P42 or the fuel tank of a GP38.  

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Re: Drop in SOund decoders for Kato deisels
« Reply #12 on: March 15, 2007, 06:09:59 PM »
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POVC has an MRC in a GP38 .. it sounds ok ..

The big question is how does the size of the speaker affect the sound?  Having the speaker in the narrow hood of an AC6000 requires a different sized speaker than in the P42 or the fuel tank of a GP38. 

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The speaker is the same size for the AC6000 and the P42 as it is board mounted. And like I said before it is passable. The speaker can affect the range of the sound, but a smaller speaker can do just as well. I suggest turning down the MRC decoders, as out of the "box" the sound is too loud and easily becomes distorted.
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Re: Drop in SOund decoders for Kato deisels
« Reply #13 on: March 15, 2007, 08:49:02 PM »
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POVC has an MRC in a GP38 .. it sounds ok ..

Actually I have two of the MRC decoders, one in a GP38 and one in an SD35 (a third decoder isn't working, I'm not sure if it was bad initially or if I screwed up and let out the magic blue smoke).

As others have noted, the sound is passable.  I think the sound quality in the PCM E7's is better, but then the LokSound decoder they use also has two speakers and is twice the price.  I actually like the random sounds in the MRC decoder better than those in the LokSound.

I'm glad to see that MRC is expanding their range of sound decoders; I hope they continue.   I have a pair of the new Kato SD70M's, so I'll probably refit one of them.  I'd like to see them add a board for the Atlas SD50 / SD60.

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Re: Drop in SOund decoders for Kato deisels
« Reply #14 on: March 16, 2007, 01:04:46 AM »
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Hmmmm.... It fits the SD70MAC, that's gonna hurt!  If it fits into the SD70m's it's really gonna hurt!!!!