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Re: 44 Tonner
« Reply #15 on: May 03, 2006, 08:34:05 PM »
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I believe so .

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Re: 44 Tonner
« Reply #16 on: May 03, 2006, 08:43:47 PM »
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Tom,
The bottom 3 on that page are the same except for the side frame styles (all non,USA)

Didn't Randy hint that the resistor was changed with the latest version of these?  Would the stock number be the same?

Believe the latest ones have a 12 volt motor and no resistor is what Randy said on the Climax thread. I'll check it out.

EDIT: Well, I looked at the threads on both Atlas and Trainboard, and the Class A has no resistor, so although not specifically mentioned that I could find with a quick glance, it appears these now have a 12 volt motor.
« Last Edit: May 03, 2006, 09:06:07 PM by 3rdrail »

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Re: 44 Tonner
« Reply #17 on: May 03, 2006, 09:03:22 PM »
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I have 2 Kato chassis right now, bought them from Japan on E-bay. They are both 12V with no resistor and are #105. I'm using one under Randy's Climax parts, BTW he E-bayed his to a actual Brain Surgeon!

I have no idea how to tell when they changed.

JohnH  is John Heathman, I know his Atlas name is JohnH, you can IM or mail him from there.
http://www.railimages.com/gallery/johnheathman
He showed me how to cast my 44T hood and since he wanted some castings himself I sent him all my molds and masters. He has my hood and sideframe. Seems like it was a couple of years ago now, so I have no idea if he still has them.

If you wanna scratchbuild, here is your theme music:


I should buy one of these castings just to finally finish one :-\
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/el/loco/erie26b.jpg
They only had one. It worked the piers in New York Harbor, and 26 also worked in refinery service and was propane fueled for grain elevator service in Akron Ohio, then returned to the NY area.

The last time I propped mine up for a photo:
http://www.railimages.com/albums/chrisschmuck/ajd.jpg

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Re: 44 Tonner
« Reply #18 on: May 03, 2006, 11:09:42 PM »
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As 3rdrail stated the kato B chassis now has a 12 volt motor - the product codes remain the same. The latest ones are available from nscalesupply and from featherrivertrains among others.
If you use these chassis don't forget to leave room for some weight! Definitely helps pulling power. ;D
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Re: 44 Tonner
« Reply #19 on: May 03, 2006, 11:17:13 PM »
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Thanks Chris , I eMailed Johnh about those 8 side frames I need . This would really be just ducky if John sold them .

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Re: 44 Tonner
« Reply #20 on: May 04, 2006, 04:15:36 AM »
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If John still has the side frame molds, I would be interested in some too please.

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Re: 44 Tonner
« Reply #21 on: May 04, 2006, 07:25:05 AM »
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SirTainly

Could you PM me with the email address for the fellow with the 44 ton castings?  I would like to do one for the FJ&G.

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Re: 44 Tonner
« Reply #22 on: May 04, 2006, 07:42:32 AM »
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I could use a couple, kitbash 'em into B&M 80 tonners.
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Re: 44 Tonner
« Reply #23 on: May 04, 2006, 05:06:20 PM »
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Has anybody tried to fit the casting yet?

I'm just saying that because my understanding is that the shells became 'surplus' when JnJ abandoned the mechanism concept.

And, when I did my 44-tonner scratch, I did .015 sides and literally squeezed the Kato critter motor in there.  It was a tight sideways fit, to get the hood anywhere near correct width.   I'm mildly concerned that if the hood was cast thick and also proper width, she ain't gonna work.  So it would be nice to hear back from somebody that they've made it work.

I think the shell looks great, much better than the brass photoengraved one.

I just ordered several more Kato B's for my projects (looks like I'll be doing some more built-up Model A Climaxes, BTW) and we'll see if the 11-107's are original with resistor, or the replacement without it.  I think the newer ones without the resistor have a lot more torque but are a little noisier.

If anybody hits the wall with these on handrails, don't panic.  Contact me offline and we'll either do a deal on brass handrails or I'll give better photo tutorial than I originally did on the Atlas forum.

« Last Edit: May 04, 2006, 05:12:20 PM by randgust »

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Re: 44 Tonner
« Reply #24 on: May 04, 2006, 05:13:36 PM »
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Has anybody tried to fit the casting yet?


do'h.  Simon? 

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Re: 44 Tonner
« Reply #25 on: May 04, 2006, 05:17:00 PM »
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nope, don't have a critter yet but I'm sure I can get something under there :) I had already expected to have to rotate the motor as you did.

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Re: 44 Tonner
« Reply #26 on: May 04, 2006, 05:25:26 PM »
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The gap under the hoods is 8mm
Tha gap under the cab is 11x7mm
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Re: 44 Tonner
« Reply #27 on: May 04, 2006, 05:25:55 PM »
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Even if the shell doesn't fit the B critter , I would be happy to have a good looking dummy , than no unit at all . I just got the eMail that my 2 44 tonners are in the mail , so I will let you know soon enough because I already have the critters on hand . Sideframe molds are being searched for , I await his reply . I think I can fab these , but to do eight will be a pain . I was thinking of using plastic screws shaved to semi-circle diameters as the truck springs . The rest would be bettendorf friction bearings and 2 flat plastic strips cut to shape . It can be done .

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Re: 44 Tonner
« Reply #28 on: May 04, 2006, 05:32:14 PM »
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Don't forget to get the Kato motor to fit Randy and I mounted the motor on edge so it was thinner:
http://www.railimages.com/albums/chrisschmuck/abp.sized.jpg
http://www.railimages.com/albums/chrisschmuck/abo.jpg
I stretched the frame about a scale foot:
http://www.railimages.com/albums/chrisschmuck/abn.jpg

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Re: 44 Tonner
« Reply #29 on: May 04, 2006, 05:36:40 PM »
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Kato chassis motor is 8mm at it's thinnest.

I think it can be made to fit pretty easy,  0.5mm off each side of one hood.