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Re: Weekend Update 5/28/17
« Reply #60 on: June 03, 2017, 02:06:36 PM »
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I have quite a few FVMs that are Katos equal or better. 

FVM had a lube issue - which has not been the case with the FVM ACes. 

I have had to completely disassemble and degrease several FVMs.

But once run in and properly lubed, they are sweet machines.
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Re: Weekend Update 5/28/17
« Reply #61 on: June 03, 2017, 04:37:45 PM »
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I have quite a few FVMs that are Katos equal or better. 

FVM had a lube issue - which has not been the case with the FVM ACes. 

I have had to completely disassemble and degrease several FVMs.

But once run in and properly lubed, they are sweet machines.

Yes, with some work they will be better, but Kato mechanisms are still better made. Even just the better components quality makes them better mechanisms.  Sweet running FVM? Yes, but they will never be Katos.  Better then Katos?  No way, I respectfully disagree.
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Re: Weekend Update 5/28/17
« Reply #62 on: June 04, 2017, 08:55:23 AM »
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Yes, with some work they will be better, but Kato mechanisms are still better made. Even just the better components quality makes them better mechanisms.  Sweet running FVM? Yes, but they will never be Katos.  Better then Katos?  No way, I respectfully disagree.

Kato went overboard on their engineering of their latest locos.  The gears are too fine and consistently pick up little pieces of debris that foul things up.  I spend way to much time disassembling trucks and cleaning out the gears.  I do not have this problem with older design Katos or FVM.  FVM did have some quality control issues with earlier releases, but these SD70ACe all run great out of the box.  They may be a bit louder than Katos, but FVM run just as smooth without the gear problem.   Add to this the much better overall appearance of the FVM and I completely understand why Jim is going FVM for his SD70ACe fleet.

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Re: Weekend Update 5/28/17
« Reply #63 on: June 04, 2017, 03:05:04 PM »
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Kato went overboard on their engineering of their latest locos.  The gears are too fine and consistently pick up little pieces of debris that foul things up.  I spend way to much time disassembling trucks and cleaning out the gears.  I do not have this problem with older design Katos or FVM.  FVM did have some quality control issues with earlier releases, but these SD70ACe all run great out of the box.  They may be a bit louder than Katos, but FVM run just as smooth without the gear problem.   Add to this the much better overall appearance of the FVM and I completely understand why Jim is going FVM for his SD70ACe fleet.

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I do agree about over-enginnering, but if kept clean they run like fine Swiss watches.  Keeep your layout clean!  :trollface:
Just kidding!  Here is a very simple fix which should drastically decrease the amount of cleanings.



Yes, just cover the gear slots with a piece of masking tape (I used blue painter's tape).  Works great!
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Re: Weekend Update 5/28/17
« Reply #64 on: June 04, 2017, 09:13:56 PM »
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Pete, that's an EXCELLET and simple idea!  (Now where's my 3M blue tape???)

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Re: Weekend Update 5/28/17
« Reply #65 on: June 04, 2017, 10:51:42 PM »
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I do agree about over-enginnering, but if kept clean they run like fine Swiss watches.  Keeep your layout clean!  :trollface:
Just kidding!  Here is a very simple fix which should drastically decrease the amount of cleanings.



Yes, just cover the gear slots with a piece of masking tape (I used blue painter's tape).  Works great!

"Yes, with some work they will be better, but Kato mechanisms are still better made. Even just the better components quality makes them better mechanisms.  Sweet running FVM? Yes, but they will never be Katos.  Better then Katos?  No way, I respectfully disagree."

Yes with some work the Katos will be better.  :)

Good idea about covering the gear openings.  I'll have to try that.

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Re: Weekend Update 5/28/17
« Reply #66 on: June 07, 2017, 06:27:16 PM »
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I do agree about over-enginnering, but if kept clean they run like fine Swiss watches.  Keeep your layout clean!  :trollface:
Just kidding!  Here is a very simple fix which should drastically decrease the amount of cleanings.



Yes, just cover the gear slots with a piece of masking tape (I used blue painter's tape).  Works great!

I picked this fix up from @sundowner when I got one of his SD40-2 off eBay. 

Now where in the hell is my painters tape ?  I had 3 or 4 rolls around the house, because I could never find the last one.  Guess I will have 5 now  :facepalm:

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Re: Weekend Update 5/28/17
« Reply #67 on: June 07, 2017, 07:36:52 PM »
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Re: Weekend Update 5/28/17
« Reply #68 on: June 07, 2017, 07:40:40 PM »
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Now where in the hell is my painters tape ?  I had 3 or 4 rolls around the house, because I could never find the last one.  Guess I will have 5 now  :facepalm:

I have that same problem...

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Re: Weekend Update 5/28/17
« Reply #69 on: June 07, 2017, 08:31:13 PM »
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Re: Weekend Update 5/28/17
« Reply #70 on: June 07, 2017, 09:13:08 PM »
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Super nice!
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Re: Weekend Update 5/28/17
« Reply #71 on: June 07, 2017, 11:34:59 PM »
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 ;)

Especially the background RPO :)
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Re: Weekend Update 5/28/17
« Reply #72 on: June 09, 2017, 03:24:42 AM »
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Looks like the school bus had a wreck....

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Re: Weekend Update 5/28/17
« Reply #73 on: June 09, 2017, 06:21:27 PM »
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Laying more track then on to some photograph worthy work soon. Also received 5 Delaware Valley EL cylindrical hoppers this week got them on eBay for only $40  8) Delaware​ Valley did the EL lettering much better than Bowser on the EL's


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Re: Weekend Update 5/28/17
« Reply #74 on: June 10, 2017, 08:32:37 AM »
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Looks like the school bus had a wreck....

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