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[cv_acr]

The first one i'll give you although that a modern interpretation.  The second is too simplified.

Going back a ways, by definition a gondola has sides and ends with a floor that is level (or approximately so).  This can include bottom doors.

A hopper has sloping sheets that allow for it's contents to discharge by gravity through hopper doors and as you said, modern cars are self clearing.

Jason

Yes that's all true. I was more going after the point that a solid-bottom car is definitely never called a hopper.

This is also not a hopper, even though it has slope sheets:
http://canadianfreightcargallery.ca/cgi-bin/image.pl?i=cr505361&o=conrail
It has a solid bottom and can only be unloaded via rotary dumper.

This is a bottom-dumping ore gondola:
http://canadianfreightcargallery.ca/cgi-bin/image.pl?i=cp375551&o=cprail
While technically meeting the "self-clearing" part of the definition, it's a flat-bottom car with bottom doors dumping to the sides, not hopper bays.

[wcfn100]

Yes that's all true. I was more going after the point that a solid-bottom car is definitely never called a hopper.

This is also not a hopper, even though it has slope sheets:

This is a bottom-dumping ore gondola:

Right. Gondolas have level floors.  It's one of their defining characteristics.

And no one said gons can't have slope sheets.   Just that hoppers will.

Jason

[SirTainly]

Congratulations Simon!  That is great news...

How is your video car and would it be available to shoot a run across the C&W in August?  I will have the second snowshed installed then so all scenery on the second deck will be finised...it might make for a very interetsing run if the clearances aren't too tight!

md

Thanks, The car needs to be rebuilt, as it took a tumble a while back (I found the box of bits this morning, but I'm sure it could be made ready. I had made some improvements since the last time it ran on your layout too - it's a little lower and now has a heavier car for the battery.

[SirTainly]

Great news! 

Tim

Thanks, hopefully this means it's worth moving again to somewhere with a little more space!