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The Dash 8-40BW in Santa Fe Warbonnet is one of my all time favourite locomotives. They are boxy (and a bit ugly), but along with the GP60Ms and B units, they are icons of the short-lived four axle high horsepower era.

A pair of these were also my very first N scale loco purchase back in late 2005, so they have sentimental value too.

So I was quite excited when Atlas shipped new Dash 8-40BWs in late 2023 under their Silver and Gold series with ESU sound-ready chassis, and finally with operating ditch lights.

Unfortunately none of the Warbonnet road numbers in the new release survived into my 1999 era without being renumber/patched or with their flags intact, and so the first job was to try grafting the new underframe with ditch lights onto an old cab and long hood. I can confirm that this is possible with care and patience:




The next task was to evaluate the new ESU sound chassis. The copper pickup strips have changed to the new wired pickups — which I find to be more reliable over the last few years. I swapped out the ugly Atlas wheels with Kato 932090 fine scale wheels (with the stub axles pressed inwards to give a 0.540" axle).

The stock sound in these is truly terrible to my ears. So I removed the stock speaker, and milled as large a rear shelf as possible. I designed and 3D printed a BLW speaker enclosure with the 9x16mm speaker lined up with the negative space below the radiator panels. (I initially tried a 9x25mm speaker enclosure as well — but this sounded inferior in A/B testing).








I dislike the ESU 58721 decoders for Atlas locomotives as I have found the sprung copper contacts for the motor and speaker to be unreliable. Instead, I ended up milling out space for an ESU 58741 Kato decoder — as these have good array of AUX LED pads and pads for U+ and GND for the keep alive. I drilled and tapped two screws into the frame halves to provide reliable power via some copper strips…




I hardwired the motor, and installed a TCS KA-N1 Keep Alive in the vacated fuel tank:




My speaker enclosure includes a slot for the rear headlight LED, and this is connected to the AUX2 pads that support dimming.

The front LEDs were a bit more complicated as I wanted the chassis to be easily disconnected from the shell for maintenance. In the end I have developed a small two-part PCB with a Molex SlimStack connectors that allow one half to remain with the chassis and decoder, and the other half to remain connected to the LEDs and shell.

This board includes the necessary dropping resistors for the ESU 58741 AUX3,4,5 connectors, and a pad for the +5V common. I tried to keep this board as flexible in layout as possible, to allow for wiring independent flashing or common function ditch lights, wired nose headlights, as well as a built in LED for cab headlights or number board lights as suits.






For this Dash 8-40BW install, the nose light is wired to AUX1 to get dimming, the ditch lights are wired in common to AUX3, and the number boards are independently lit by AUX4.






So the end result is a four axle unit with a generous 9x16mm speaker enclosure, Keep Alive, and independent ditch lighting and number board lighting, all with a shell and decoder that can be removed for maintenance without de-soldering anything :)

I've also edited the stock ESU sound file to include a realistic Whoop compressor, and also to re-configured the notch samples to omit the unrealistic recordings for notches 7 and 8 (which sound awful)…





Unfortunately I was still not done!

Atlas has really dropped the ball with the re-engineering of their Dash 8-40B and Dash 8-40C models. The new ESU chassis results in the shell riding more than a millimetre too high. This is clearly a design flaw relative to the previous releases. It is particularly obvious when looking at the rear truck in profile, or at the space between the plow and the track, and at the fuel tank. The shell doesn't even sit level front-to-back.

In the end, I have milled off all the shell supports from the frame, which allows the shell to sit a lot lower:




With the copper pickup strips eliminated, I also took the opportunity to mill out the unrealistically shallow depth of the fuel tank…







I then designed new 3D printed underframe girders to fill the gaps. These include prototypical traction motor cables, bolster supports, lights, fuel fillers, and waste tank connections to the end of the fuel tank.



vs stock:






vs stock:










So there we have it: an original upper shell grafted onto a new lower shell with ditch lights, riding on a milled chassis, with new wheels, a new decoder, a custom sound file, a custom speaker, a custom light board, with a hardwired motor and Keep Alive, dressed up with a custom underframe. Easy!



I'm very happy with how these have turned out, and I'm going to produce a larger batch for painting silver once I've engineered a similar fix for the Dash 8-40CW.
« Last Edit: June 14, 2026, 06:41:08 PM by John »
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Re: Atlas N Dash 8-40BW ESU Sound Upgrades [Benson Locomotive Works]
« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2026, 08:44:05 AM »
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Wow, the amount of modifications are almost like making a new model!
I'm curious why there is a 5V marking on the connector PC board?  Are you using 5V common positive instead of the more typical U+ (12V) voltage?
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« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2026, 09:54:46 AM »
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Great job on the underframe. That's been one of my "one day" 3D projects.
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Re: Atlas N Dash 8-40BW ESU Sound Upgrades [Benson Locomotive Works]
« Reply #3 on: June 14, 2026, 05:11:14 PM »
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Wow, the amount of modifications are almost like making a new model!

Thanks!

I'm curious why there is a 5V marking on the connector PC board?  Are you using 5V common positive instead of the more typical U+ (12V) voltage?

This initial BLW Light Board is designed to use the +5V common on the ESU 58741 Kato board. The on-board LEDs and AUX1 and AUX2 use the +5V common, so it seemed logical to stick with the same setup and resistor values for the remaining functions. It is also more convenient, as I am already using the U+ pad to terminate the keep alive.

I've pretty much standardised on the ESU 58741 as my favourite decoder for narrow hood units. It is narrower than a wired Micro, and thinner than a wired Nano. It has almost all the functions I need, and it provides nice pads to solder to.


My BLW Light Board was originally conceived as a single PCB to solve the lack of current limiting resistors on the ESU 58741 AUX3,4,5 functions — but then I figured if I was already going to get something fabricated, I might as well try for a design that can be disconnected.

The Ditch Light Left and Right pads (DL DR) are deliberately located next to each other so that you can solder a single wire across them if you don't require flashing ditch lights.

The top-mounted LED was a last minute addition to see if I could use this for cab lights or cab number boards — and it worked out great for the Dash 8 number boards. I ended up only running four wires from the BLW Light Board to the decoder, and this still gets me four LEDs powered by three functions for independent number boards, ditch lights, and a dimmable nose light.

Most of my installs are very space constrained as I like to use as much space as possible possible for my speaker enclosures, and so the BLW Light board is sized to fit within a Kato SD45 Cab Light shade (7.4mm wide x 8.1mm long x 3.5mm thick):








I'm planning future iterations with different resistor values, and perhaps a version without resistors to just pass everything through for decoders that already have in-line resistors.
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Re: Atlas N Dash 8-40BW ESU Sound Upgrades [Benson Locomotive Works]
« Reply #4 on: June 14, 2026, 06:05:34 PM »
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You've gone this far, how much peer pressure would it take to create separate air tanks?  :ashat: 8)
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Re: Atlas N Dash 8-40BW ESU Sound Upgrades [Benson Locomotive Works]
« Reply #5 on: June 14, 2026, 06:10:44 PM »
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Fantastic work. 5 stars! Your photos are so clear, what are you shooting with?

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Re: Atlas N Dash 8-40BW ESU Sound Upgrades [Benson Locomotive Works]
« Reply #6 on: June 14, 2026, 06:24:47 PM »
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You've gone this far, how much peer pressure would it take to create separate air tanks?  :ashat: 8)

I did think about separate air tanks, but the existing ones are hiding a chunk of weight that I would have to mill away to get an improved look, and I've already taken quite a lot of weight out of the chassis. Also, on the right side of the tanks there is a nicely injection moulded Salem air dryer that I would have to invest a lot of time in to duplicating. I think with a bit of weathering, I can live with the compromise.
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Re: Atlas N Dash 8-40BW ESU Sound Upgrades [Benson Locomotive Works]
« Reply #7 on: June 14, 2026, 06:35:34 PM »
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Fantastic work. 5 stars! Your photos are so clear, what are you shooting with?

Thanks!

The photos are taken with an iPhone 14 Pro. The Macro mode on the iPhone is pretty decent.
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Re: Atlas N Dash 8-40BW ESU Sound Upgrades [Benson Locomotive Works]
« Reply #8 on: June 14, 2026, 06:40:40 PM »
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You just got a best of designation

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Re: Atlas N Dash 8-40BW ESU Sound Upgrades [Benson Locomotive Works]
« Reply #9 on: June 14, 2026, 06:48:07 PM »
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You just got a best of designation

Hey wow! Thank you — that is very kind :D
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« Reply #10 on: June 15, 2026, 07:19:07 AM »
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Big thumbs-up, Tim - wonderful job on all the aspects of this upgrade (speaker milling/placement, underbody details, custom untethered lighting etc).

I too have developed a preference and an affinity for the ESU 58741 board.

I am particularly impressed with this part … “I have developed a small two-part PCB with a Molex SlimStack connectors“.  HOW?  I mean, how does one fabricate such a clean, precise, professional-looking circuit board assembly for one’s self?!  Incredible.


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Re: Atlas N Dash 8-40BW ESU Sound Upgrades [Benson Locomotive Works]
« Reply #11 on: June 15, 2026, 08:07:20 AM »
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Absolutely outstanding. Interested in what tool you're using to mill the frame and where you're going for your PCB.

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Re: Atlas N Dash 8-40BW ESU Sound Upgrades [Benson Locomotive Works]
« Reply #12 on: June 15, 2026, 10:04:44 AM »
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The underframe is very cool!  I recall when these came out, flipping a piece rail and gluing it upside down to minimize that gap over the rear trucks.
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Re: Atlas N Dash 8-40BW ESU Sound Upgrades [Benson Locomotive Works]
« Reply #13 on: June 16, 2026, 03:14:18 AM »
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For the milling I use a Proxxon MF70 equipped with a PM40 Precision steel vice and 1 and 2mm Tungsten cutters. I mill the metal frames at 12k rpm and try to limit the depth to 0.25mm per pass. For plastic I mill at 20k rpm.

This mill is quite basic, but it is well suited for N scale locomotives. One challenge is to hold the frame halves and plastic components firmly enough to avoid vibration, but still not crush or bend them. I use various metal and styrene blocks to prevent crushing. Unfortunately this is quite slow work, and if I ever wanted to scale up quantities, I would probably need to invest in creating 3D printed holders that wrap around the frames, but this would require quite a significant investment of time. Currently I just wait until I'm in a zen mode and spend a couple of hours to finish some frames.






For the PCB design, I taught myself KiCad https://www.kicad.org from some Youtube tutorials. It took about three months of 1-2 hours per week to get to the point that I could design the double sided PCBs, and import the custom footprints for the Molex connectors. I deployed Claude AI as an additional chatbot help assistant when I got stuck with a particular feature.

For fabrication, I used PCBWay https://www.pcbway.com — who were very helpful. I simply uploaded the required CAD / Gerber / Bill Of Materials files, and let them source all the components. There was a bit of back-and-forth, and then a month later the samples arrived  :)
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Re: Atlas N Dash 8-40BW ESU Sound Upgrades [Benson Locomotive Works]
« Reply #14 on: June 17, 2026, 02:21:16 AM »
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Tim, that is absolutely beautiful! Amazing work! Sure beats my frame rail upgrade I did many years ago! You should start selling them, or maybe sell the files so we can make them! I have a bunch of standard B40-8's that need those spaces filled.

-Mike