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Re: North West Great Northern Layout
« Reply #105 on: February 02, 2026, 01:07:28 PM »
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I grew up in the lower mainland of BC in the 60’s and remember the GN running through White Rock and New Westminster. I had a book in my “library” on this GN branchline and it seemed perfect for a small layout like mine. Short trains and four axle GP’s and Alco’s were what I wanted to model and this line was perfectly suited to this 3 x 6’ track plan. I don’t have a grade profile for this line so I’m not sure if the line from Summit to Troup Junction was the ruling grade but judging from photos of Nelson from Summit I suspect so.

I cross over what is now the BNSF line into Vancouver twice a day on my commutes and can hear the rumble and horns of the line from our home about a mile away so I’ve never been far from the GN…

Brent

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Re: North West Great Northern Layout
« Reply #106 on: February 02, 2026, 08:42:44 PM »
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I grew up in the lower mainland of BC in the 60’s and remember the GN running through White Rock and New Westminster. I had a book in my “library” on this GN branchline and it seemed perfect for a small layout like mine. Short trains and four axle GP’s and Alco’s were what I wanted to model and this line was perfectly suited to this 3 x 6’ track plan. I don’t have a grade profile for this line so I’m not sure if the line from Summit to Troup Junction was the ruling grade but judging from photos of Nelson from Summit I suspect so.

I cross over what is now the BNSF line into Vancouver twice a day on my commutes and can hear the rumble and horns of the line from our home about a mile away so I’ve never been far from the GN…

Brent

Hmmm, I expect you and I are hearing the same trains…

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Re: North West Great Northern Layout
« Reply #107 on: February 03, 2026, 01:02:56 PM »
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Where are you in the lower mainland? I’m in North Delta near the Surrey / Delta border..

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Re: North West Great Northern Layout
« Reply #108 on: February 03, 2026, 02:08:26 PM »
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I've been thinking about John's comment about adding a staging yard long before he brought it up and I think I have a solution that will offer the possibilities for some realistic point to point operation on this folded loop as well as the choice of continuous operation.

The layout is currently built on a 1 x 3 open frame grid that measures 37 x 72 overall. This is then attached with 4 screws to a frame of 4 -2 x 2" legs reinforced with 1 x 3" and 1 x 4" bracing on 3 sides. I inserted casters in the bottom of each of the 4 legs which allows me to roll the whole layout over top of my workbench to save space in the Rec Room.

The folded loop although great for continuous running doesn't offer a lot of operational capacity so adding a staging yard is a good idea but what about 2 x 2 tracks? Then this could be run as a point to point layout with connections to the rest of the world on both ends. It forced me to do a little research in my own library, which was convenient, and because I'm interested in the Great Northern operating in British Columbia I primarily referenced a publication I bought in a local hobby shop years ago...Railways of the West Kootenay by Gerry & Corwin Doekson. It details the operations and equipment of the Great Northern north of Northport Washington and connecting with the Canadian Pacific in Nelson BC. This gave me a timetable, route map and the inspiration to adapt my existing track plan to incorporate what will be a hinged staging track addition representing the portions of the line South from the US border at Waneta BC and North beyond Salmo BC toward Nelson BC and the interchange with CP.

It's funny that when I looked into freelancing an extension of the GN into BC one of the hardest things I found was coming up with plausible place names and a basic plan for operation. This short single track mainline and connection with the CP solved all of my conceptual shortcomings and I like the scenery too....




The Timetable gives me Place names, distances, siding lengths and train numbers...



With that information, and rough dimensions for a hinged 36" extension here's a revised track plan and point to point schematic...



A little more online research brought up this scenery inspiration from the early 70's along the line when the Burlington Northern was operating...



And a print of that same photo provided the backdrop for a scenery test section I did years ago and took a photo of this past weekend....



Looks like I have a plan!


its a beautiful part of the country, if you ever have the time you should definitely take a drive up hwy 3 to trail, and then have a look around there are a lot of remnants of the railway being there, grand forks I believe was the end of the kettle falls line and it has a ton of great rail history and places to see as the line is still operational for now. however the mill in grand forks is due to close soon, so it might not be around much longer!

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Re: North West Great Northern Layout
« Reply #109 on: February 03, 2026, 02:18:20 PM »
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Re: North West Great Northern Layout
« Reply #110 on: February 04, 2026, 01:24:30 PM »
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Thanks for the suggestion @Westcoast_Trains I would like to get up that way in the next few years…

I see from your profile that you’re in New Westminster, I work at Royal Printers up on 12th street, small world…

PM me if you want to run some trains sometime…

Brent

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Re: North West Great Northern Layout
« Reply #111 on: February 04, 2026, 11:46:03 PM »
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Nice! A friend of mine built a house on the old right of way just West of Salmo- Ross Spur BC.

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Re: North West Great Northern Layout
« Reply #112 on: February 05, 2026, 12:32:54 AM »
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Royal Printers! I’m just up the hill from there! 12th and Hamilton!

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Re: North West Great Northern Layout
« Reply #113 on: February 05, 2026, 03:48:42 PM »
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Thanks for the suggestion @Westcoast_Trains I would like to get up that way in the next few years…

I see from your profile that you’re in New Westminster, I work at Royal Printers up on 12th street, small world…

PM me if you want to run some trains sometime…

Brent

Right on appreciate the invitation! Definitely have to take you up on that sometime.


@Angus Shops same for you, I'm over in Sapperton, walking distance to the BNSF Depot.

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Re: North West Great Northern Layout
« Reply #114 on: February 07, 2026, 12:50:58 PM »
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I’m out of town for a few weeks but will send out some PM’s when I get back, will try  to get you both over…

Brent

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Re: North West Great Northern Layout
« Reply #115 on: March 02, 2026, 04:28:45 PM »
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Hi Guys,

Back from holidays and had a little time to complete the first log car. First up was to repaint the decking to show as weathered wood...



Then glued together a removable log load using a few blobs of canopy glue...



Used some knife shavings from distressing the log load plus some other bits from trimming them to length and used some diluted canopy glue to hold it all down...



And inserted the load to send to the mill...



This was a fun little project , I've got maybe two dollars worth of material into this including the evergreen material for the bunks. The logs are dried Hydrangea flower stems from the yard so the price was right...

Thanks for tuning in...

Brent

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Re: North West Great Northern Layout
« Reply #116 on: March 10, 2026, 07:25:55 PM »
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Had some time to finish off the bunks and install for the second of two similar log cars, and the bunks and install for a third one of a slightly different design. Time to glue a few more log loads together and dirty up the decks...





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Re: North West Great Northern Layout
« Reply #117 on: March 16, 2026, 11:52:53 AM »
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Finished off the 2 log bunk cars and loads…




And finished off the faded 50 footer and it’s baby brother faded 40 footer…





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Re: North West Great Northern Layout
« Reply #118 on: March 21, 2026, 07:39:51 PM »
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More weathering fun this weekend, saw an article on the MRH forum about painting and weathering the insides of open hoppers and thought I’d give it a shot…

Out of the jewel boxes…





Masked the exterior then painted silver…



Then an interior and exterior white fade which helped dull the metal flake effect of the fresh silver..



Interior and exterior dark brown panel line wash..before and after…



And finally a couple shades of pan pastels to blend..



Ready for ballast service…



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Re: North West Great Northern Layout
« Reply #119 on: March 23, 2026, 12:40:51 PM »
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Also finished the silver roof boxcar in the photo with the gons…

Before


And after


Here's a link to the MRH Forum blog by Neil Schofield that lead me down this weathering path, starts about 1/3 of the way down the page The Qtip mineral spirits trick in particular helped me tidy up some earlier weathering experiments that I went a little to far on..

https://forum.mrhmag.com/post/cp-rails-newport-lyndonville-subdivision-12218893?trail=1800

He does some very nice work and I had everything on hand except the mineral spirits,

Brent

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