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CP Railroad Lockout
« on: March 20, 2022, 05:37:13 AM »
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https://www.trains.com/trn/news-reviews/news-wire/canadian-pacific-lockout-begins-in-canada/

"CALGARY, Alberta — Canadian Pacific has locked out the members of a Canadian union representing 3,000 train crew members and yard workers, a move it had previously indicated would lead to a shutdown of operations in Canada."
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Re: CP Raiload Lockout
« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2022, 10:15:44 AM »
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That’s gonna put a kink in their KCS takeover.
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Re: CP Raiload Lockout
« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2022, 11:56:00 AM »
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I just hope its short...  :|

...and thank you for picking a story that accurately calls this a lockout, so many stories are saying we are walking off the job.
Ryan in Alberta

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Re: CP Raiload Lockout
« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2022, 12:22:09 PM »
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I just hope its short...  :|

...and thank you for picking a story that accurately calls this a lockout, so many stories are saying we are walking off the job.

Thinking of you, Ryan.  Not that there's ever a good time for a lockout, but with the current global environment, now is especially bad for the employees.  Good luck.  I hope this is short, too!

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Re: CP Raiload Lockout
« Reply #4 on: March 20, 2022, 12:25:28 PM »
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...and thank you for picking a story that accurately calls this a lockout, so many stories are saying we are walking off the job.
It's both a lockout and a strike

https://www.newswire.ca/news-releases/teamsters-canada-rail-conference-on-strike-at-cp-863399528.html

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Re: CP Raiload Lockout
« Reply #5 on: March 20, 2022, 09:35:20 PM »
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It's both a lockout and a strike

https://www.newswire.ca/news-releases/teamsters-canada-rail-conference-on-strike-at-cp-863399528.html

Its a lockout...

Once the company locked us out there is no more collective agreement until a new one is negotiated.
Giving notice to strike prevents the company calling us back to work without any contract protections.

While calling it a strike and a lockout is technically accurate, it is also misleading to the cause of the work stoppage.

Pretty much everyone I know would rather keep working and continue negotiating.
Ryan in Alberta

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Re: CP Raiload Lockout
« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2022, 06:50:06 AM »
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Its a lockout...


Since you did not read the article;

"Teamsters Canada Rail Conference recently released a press release regarding the lockout at Canadian Pacific (CP).  To clarify, in addition to the lockout, Teamsters Canada Rail Conference is also on strike throughout the country."

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Re: CP Raiload Lockout
« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2022, 10:28:36 AM »
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Not arguing the fact that we gave notice to strike after the fact. Just that there was alot of misleading articles that stated we initiated this...

In fact I think I said...

While calling it a strike and a lockout is technically accurate, it is also misleading to the cause of the work stoppage.

I really don't want to turn this into an argument so I will concede, go away, and continue being locked out by my employer...

Have a wonderful day 😊
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Re: CP Raiload Lockout
« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2022, 11:10:36 AM »
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Just because I hate assumed expertise . . .

@Missaberoad works for CP.  He's in a better place then the media to report on how this works for rank and file . . . .
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Re: CP Raiload Lockout
« Reply #9 on: March 21, 2022, 11:58:41 AM »
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I'm sorry I posted the link ..

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Re: CP Raiload Lockout
« Reply #10 on: March 21, 2022, 12:39:12 PM »
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Just because I hate assumed expertise . . .

@Missaberoad works for CP.  He's in a better place then the media to report on how this works for rank and file . . . .

It is the Teamsters Canada Rail Conference making the statement on behalf of the workers they represent, the fact the media is reporting it does really enter into this.

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Re: CP Raiload Lockout
« Reply #12 on: March 22, 2022, 09:25:12 AM »
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Just because I hate assumed expertise . . .

@Missaberoad works for CP.  He's in a better place then the media to report on how this works for rank and file . . . .

I am NOT commenting on anyone in this thread.  It is scary how many employees are uninformed on what is really going on in their own company. The number of employees I have promoted over the years who were shocked at how much leadership really knows and that we do work hard, very hard.  Again just sharing my own experience and not making any inferences here. 

This situation reminds me of the school district I went to, my senior year the school board locked out the teachers and then complained in the local paper about them striking. The teachers union refused to respond in the media. A big mess, but my graduation did not get pushed back so it all worked out in the end. Lol
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Re: CP Raiload Lockout
« Reply #13 on: March 22, 2022, 10:22:29 AM »
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So reading Lenny's article, it appears CP locked out the union, then "agreed" to binding arbitration under certain terms, and then lifted the lock out.  The fact that the union spokesman says wages and pensions are still unresolved issues tells me CP was and  is looking for a cram down of those costs before they complete the KCS acquisition.  While trains may indeed begin rolling today, this dispute is far from over.
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Re: CP Raiload Lockout
« Reply #14 on: March 22, 2022, 12:19:56 PM »
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I figured it wouldn't last long. One year, our yard shut down one day for Thanksgiving and another day for Christmas. Took almost 6 months to catch up.