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Re: Precision Masters / Red Caboose 40' plug-door reefer prototype?
« Reply #15 on: November 20, 2021, 02:35:51 PM »
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Nice to know the wood cars are FGE. Can’t have too many FGE reefers in the northeast.
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Re: Precision Masters / Red Caboose 40' plug-door reefer prototype?
« Reply #16 on: November 20, 2021, 03:11:27 PM »
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Are we talking about the Intermountain wood reefer or the Precision masters wood reefer?

The Precision Master wood sheathed car is definitely not a FGE car...

The Intermountain wood car was new tooling and is based on a rebuilt FGE car.

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Re: Precision Masters / Red Caboose 40' plug-door reefer prototype?
« Reply #17 on: November 20, 2021, 03:54:49 PM »
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Are we talking about the Intermountain wood reefer or the Precision masters wood reefer?

The Precision Master wood sheathed car is definitely not a FGE car...

The Intermountain wood car was new tooling and is based on a rebuilt FGE car.

Intermountain - but I was under the apparent misconception that it was originally a Precision Masters car.
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Re: Precision Masters / Red Caboose 40' plug-door reefer prototype?
« Reply #18 on: November 20, 2021, 04:25:26 PM »
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Ah, that’s what I get for skimming. 😎

I do have some InterMountain wood reefers in FGE. 
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Re: Precision Masters / Red Caboose 40' plug-door reefer prototype?
« Reply #19 on: November 20, 2021, 04:43:23 PM »
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Turns out I have 6 of them, not 3.  Forgot all about the three that I picked up a few years ago in a box of stuff on eBay.  I will give it a try in Simple Green, which seems to work for a lot of stuff.  Worst case scenario is that I will have 5 instead of 6 when I'm done.  Now in the freezer in hopes of getting the roof off....

Tom, let us know how the paint stripping goes please. I started out with six cars also, but now I'm down to three :facepalm:
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Re: Precision Masters / Red Caboose 40' plug-door reefer prototype?
« Reply #20 on: November 20, 2021, 05:04:38 PM »
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Intermountain - but I was under the apparent misconception that it was originally a Precision Masters car.

Here's a shot of a precision masters car to compare to Otto's shot of the Intermountain reefer.

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/hIMAAOSwcABgW6Rs/s-l1600.jpg

Like the plug door car it used the roof and ends from their PFE car. I'm not sure if it has a specific prototype but wood reefers were so similar in design its pretty close to a number of rebuilt cars...
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Re: Precision Masters / Red Caboose 40' plug-door reefer prototype?
« Reply #21 on: November 20, 2021, 05:50:26 PM »
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Here's a shot of a precision masters car to compare to Otto's shot of the Intermountain reefer.

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/hIMAAOSwcABgW6Rs/s-l1600.jpg

Like the plug door car it used the roof and ends from their PFE car. I'm not sure if it has a specific prototype but wood reefers were so similar in design its pretty close to a number of rebuilt cars...

Oh, that's very different.    Never mind.
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Re: Precision Masters / Red Caboose 40' plug-door reefer prototype?
« Reply #22 on: November 22, 2021, 12:49:15 PM »
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OK, have been able to strip the lettering off the PM reefer.  Good news and bad news (well, not that bad).

DISCLAIMER: this worked for me, on an original Precision Masters reefer lettered for AT&SF.  I can't guarantee it will necessarily work on Red Caboose cars, or those lettered for other roads or custom painted.

Good news:
A 24 hour bath in 91% Isopropyl Alcohol, a soft toothbrush, and occasional use of a fingernail removed 99.5% of the lettering.  What was left was a "shadow" in some places- but the car is 30 years old, and I think the dyes in the ink discolored the plastic in a few places.  I also note that the plastic is slightly darker orange where the square logos used to be- which I attribute to the model probably picking up a little UV over the years (it's run on at least 2, perhaps 3 layouts), and "bleaching" out the orange a bit in the uncovered areas.  I don't anticipate any problems after its painted.

The bad news:
I wasn't able to get the car to "pop" open after time in the freezer.  These are old enough that I probably assembled it with MEK back in the day, and its welded together. Rather than force anything, I dumped the whole car in the alcohol bath.  This resulted in the black roof and ends turning medium/dark gray. Rather too "weathered" for a car painted in 1952 on my 1956 era layout. The underframe, brakewheel and end ladders (which I think are Delrin or something similar) are still jet black, so I am assuming the ends and roof were either painted (although there is no black residue in the container I soaked it in) or perhaps clear coated, or the black styrene (or whatever plastic) reacted with the alcohol.  Again, I think this will be fine after paint is applied, but I was hoping to avoid a repaint on these parts.
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Re: Precision Masters / Red Caboose 40' plug-door reefer prototype?
« Reply #23 on: November 22, 2021, 09:08:11 PM »
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Thanks! Good to know! You mentioned Simple Green earlier; I take it that didn't work?
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Re: Precision Masters / Red Caboose 40' plug-door reefer prototype?
« Reply #24 on: November 22, 2021, 10:32:26 PM »
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Thanks! Good to know! You mentioned Simple Green earlier; I take it that didn't work?
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Don't know.  Turned out the gallon jug had about 1/2 ounce left in it- now it's on the grocery list.  So I went to plan B with the alcohol.  I may try the Simple Green on the next one. 

My usual paint removal method is to try Simple Green first, then alcohol if the SG doesn't work, then more exotic things if it is alcohol resistant. 
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