Weekend Update 10/17/21

[davefoxx]

I even managed to get some hung over where my workbench will be. Finding the studs was interesting, the house is a mix of 16" and 24" centers and there's a few spots where they threw everything out the window. Excited to finally see something tho, hopefully I can keep the momentum up.

That stud in the wall at the far left bracket is probably out of the standard centers, because the builder needed a stud to anchor that box for the wall switch.

DFF

[Missaberoad]

That stud in the wall at the far left bracket is probably out of the standard centers, because the builder needed a stud to anchor that box for the wall switch.
DFF

Agreed on that one but going down the wall past the last bracket the next 3 studs are at 16", 22" and 18" centers. I'm guessing the bathroom being on the other side of the wall has something to do with it.

[davefoxx]

Yowza!  Is that a load bearing wall?

DFF

[Chris333]

Agreed on that one but going down the wall past the last bracket the next 3 studs are at 16", 22" and 18" centers. I'm guessing the bathroom being on the other side of the wall has something to do with it.

Or they had a liquid lunch that day. 

[Missaberoad]

Yowza!  Is that a load bearing wall?
DFF

Its a manufactured home so I doubt it. Definitely caused a little head scratching finding the studs tho...

Or they had a liquid lunch that day. 

 

[mu26aeh]

It's not going to get to it's home rails but I'm going to say this is finished up @R L Smith



Onto the next 2...

And damn it, I got Pennsy all over me 



I had a Bachmann K4 and a mail car via cheap auction wins, and @seusscaboose had the Catalpa Falls cars done so I ended up with one of those.  Been back and forth selling the K4/mail car, but I guess I answered that today after walking into work and finding the 4 car corrugated Pennsy Kato set on the consignment shelf for $50.

[Maletrain]

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Getting ready to sand the roof for my BCPM official car PEACE RIVER.  John (Keystone Details) has achieved a great fit with the Micro-Trains heavyweight observation car which will be used as a core:





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I am curious why you are using a 3D printed roof to fit an MTL observation car.  Doesn't the MTL roof do what you want?  MTL has both a clerestory roof and a rounded top roof that fit its 2 heavyweight observation cars.

[thomasjmdavis]

I am curious why you are using a 3D printed roof to fit an MTL observation car.  Doesn't the MTL roof do what you want?  MTL has both a clerestory roof and a rounded top roof that fit its 2 heavyweight observation cars.

I suppose I should leave this to the original author, but the BCPM roof has a specific end profile that is different from the "balloon" arched roof that MTL makes.  Personally, I am hoping we see more of the variety of "betterment" and other rebuilt roof styles coming out in 3D.  I could use a bunch for Erie coaches and diners, and would like to see some for GTW or ACL rebuilt coaches as well.  (No hurry, I have too many old projects to start into many new ones).

[Maletrain]

I suppose I should leave this to the original author, but the BCPM roof has a specific end profile that is different from the "balloon" arched roof that MTL makes.  Personally, I am hoping we see more of the variety of "betterment" and other rebuilt roof styles coming out in 3D.  I could use a bunch for Erie coaches and diners, and would like to see some for GTW or ACL rebuilt coaches as well.  (No hurry, I have too many old projects to start into many new ones).

I understand.  I would also like to see some different types of roofs that fit MTL passenger cars.  Particularly the type that tapers on its ends to match the roof of streamlined light weights. Lemosteam seems like a good source, once I get the chance to get into it the way I want to do it.

[ncbqguy]

There are a number of different Betterment roof styles.
Squared off end (CB&Q modernized chair and coaches), Rounded transition to streamline contour roof end (Q and RI Pullmans), Straight Taper (Erie and others) and more.
Anybody doing the roofs might include the full or partial skirts....or include them with sides!!
These streamstyled cars are neat and some even have thermopane windows which add even more interesting rivety detail!
Charlie Vlk

[BCR 570]

Doesn't the MTL roof do what you want?

No it does not; it has a very different cross-section with an almost flat portion on top, and rectangular panels all the way down its centreline.  The new roof has the correct cross-section with a continuous arch from one side to the other.  This is very evident when looking along the car.

John's roof exemplifies one of the advantages of the 3D rendering and printing process - it was modified slightly from an existing part of his to match my prototype to give me exactly what I need.  He even added a few small vents where needed.

A similar process is underway for the sides which have been rendered and are being etched in stainless steel.  The resulting model will be highly accurate in all respects.  I may have to scratchbuild a few underbody appliances, but the major components are now in hand or soon to be.

Tim

[Lemosteam]

I understand.  I would also like to see some different types of roofs that fit MTL passenger cars.  Particularly the type that tapers on its ends to match the roof of streamlined light weights. Lemosteam seems like a good source, once I get the chance to get into it the way I want to do it.

The issue is not the roof, that is the easy part. It is the ends of the car. The betterment heavyweights would need new squared ends to mate to the roof which have square ends in the plan view. So the challenge is how do you fill in the tapered ends of a heavyweight, which also lengthens the sides BTW, or do you cheat the overall length of the car by filing the end square and printing a pseudo end door panel.

This is the biggest reason the project is not very feasible to me at this point.

[bbussey]

The issue is not the roof, that is the easy part. It is the ends of the car. The betterment heavyweights would need new squared ends to mate to the roof which have square ends in the plan view. So the challenge is how do you fill in the tapered ends of a heavyweight, which also lengthens the sides BTW, or do you cheat the overall length of the car by filing the end square and printing a pseudo end door panel.

This is the biggest reason the project is not very feasible to me at this point.

You would need new 3D extended ends from the current corner posts and outward. Or etchings that would fold to include the wings that would fold to represent the extra foot or so of the side. Might be best to etch the entire betterment exterior as a wrapper, with two halves that meet at the end doors.

[thomasjmdavis]

The Erie design kept the heavyweight end, and extended the roof (tapered to a streamlined end profile) past the corner of the side by several inches, and installed what looks like a new diaphragm.
http://rr-fallenflags.org/el/pax/erie-di939abd.jpg

[squirrelhunter]

Funny this should come up today...




So I just had these designed by MP Scale Models, they are roof end pieces for the Walthers/Railsmith coach and MT heavyweight cars that are MoPac "Texas" rebuilt heavyweight car roofs.

Basically MP's passenger car shop in Kingsville TX (and maybe the shop in Palestine TX) rebuilt a ton of heavyweight cars with new roofs that sloped down to the ends, similar to the prewar pullman rebuilt sleepers for KCS, C&S/FW&D, and I think RI.

Weirdly, MP rebuilt a number of HW coaches with new welded sides and sealed windows with a pretty similar arrangement to the Walthers PS lightweight coach, with the major difference being they retained their vestibules on both ends and their 6 wheel trucks.

I am not super worried about the car ends not being totally true to prototype, I just wanted a part that could easily be reproduced to splice on to the MT balloon roof to get something that looks right.