Author Topic: Smart phone camera recommendations?  (Read 1895 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Cajonpassfan

  • Crew
  • *
  • Posts: 5398
  • Respect: +1973
Smart phone camera recommendations?
« on: March 07, 2021, 11:52:37 AM »
0
My old iPhone finally died, so I need to replace it.
Before I buy the replacement iPhone 12 (possibly the mini), is there an option better suited for model photography? (For obvious reasons, I need to do this quickly, hence this inquiry here rather than the photo section which doesn’t seem to get much traffic; sorry).
Thoughts and suggestions appreciated,
Otto K.

garethashenden

  • Crew
  • *
  • Posts: 2319
  • Respect: +1814
Re: Smart phone camera recommendations?
« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2021, 12:12:06 PM »
0
The iPhone 12 Pro Max has the best camera, by most standards. I like the 2.5x "telephoto" lens. Its not quite as high resolution as the main lens, but it lets me get details in focus more easily. There aren't any smartphone cameras that are optimized for macro photography, but focus stacking can help out in that regard. There are apps for capturing the images, but you'll need a second app on a computer to process it.

But realistically, any current model iPhone will be better than what you had before. If the size of the Pro Max isn't too big for you that would be my recommendation. I'm really happy with mine. The iPhone 12 Pro (non-max) is almost as good, I think its a 2x zoom instead of 2.5x. If it matters enough that you're asking here, get one of the pros.

Cajonpassfan

  • Crew
  • *
  • Posts: 5398
  • Respect: +1973
Re: Smart phone camera recommendations?
« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2021, 07:11:10 PM »
0
Thanks @garethashenden, appreciate the advice. Got the 12 Pro earlier today, to me the Max is just too BIG for everyday use. Even this one seems enormous compared to what I was used to, but hopefully the better camera is worth it... I need to try it out.
Thanks again, Otto

Chris333

  • Crew
  • *
  • Posts: 19486
  • Respect: +6772
Re: Smart phone camera recommendations?
« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2021, 10:06:44 PM »
0
I know a bunch of vloggers who now use a iPhone12 instead of very expensive camera because it is that good now. They are shooting video though not photos.

wazzou

  • Crew
  • *
  • Posts: 6812
  • #GoCougs
  • Respect: +1736
Re: Smart phone camera recommendations?
« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2021, 10:09:36 PM »
0
I have an 11 Pro-Max and I’ve been quite pleased with it.
Bryan

Member of NPRHA, Modeling Committee Member
http://www.nprha.org/
Member of MRHA


robert3985

  • Crew
  • *
  • Posts: 3538
  • Respect: +1901
Re: Smart phone camera recommendations?
« Reply #5 on: March 08, 2021, 11:42:19 AM »
0
My old iPhone finally died, so I need to replace it.
Before I buy the replacement iPhone 12 (possibly the mini), is there an option better suited for model photography? (For obvious reasons, I need to do this quickly, hence this inquiry here rather than the photo section which doesn’t seem to get much traffic; sorry).
Thoughts and suggestions appreciated,
Otto K.

My main consideration when looking at phone cameras is the position of the lens/lenses from the side of the phone.  I want lenses that are position as near to the edge of the phone as possible...ideally a scale 5' 7"....which is eye-level for a six foot tall N-scale human so I can get model railroad photos that look like they were taken by that N-scale 6' tall human.   This measurement is from the center of the lens to the edge of the phone.

Although really good phone cameras are available for general photography, which includes "God's Eyeview" N-scale photography from high above the track, only a relatively few phone cameras are available that position the primary lens close enough to the edge of the phone.

I also use a focus stacker app for my old Android Google Pixel 2 XL that will take up to 20 consecutive photos with a single push of the shutter in about 1/4 second between pre-selected close-focus and far-focus points.  There SHOULD be similar apps available for iOS, but I haven't done any research on them.  I combine the photos after I've taken them in Helicon Focus on my desktop.

I'd suggest a visit to your local cell phone service supplier with an N-scale ruler to see what iOS phone has lenses sufficiently close to the edge of the chassis, since measurements of where the lenses actually are simply are not available online.

For me, my cell phone is first a camera, secondarily a phone, primarily used for model photography...but carried around for communication's sake.  Many of the more esoteric features of my old phone I've never used and probably never will, but it takes really GREAT photos...and that's about 90percent of what I care about.

Good luck, and let us know what you finally decide okay?

Cheerio!
Bob Gilmore

learmoia

  • Crew
  • *
  • Posts: 4632
  • Respect: +1272
    • The Youtube Channel
Re: Smart phone camera recommendations?
« Reply #6 on: March 08, 2021, 02:46:02 PM »
0
For me, my cell phone is first a camera, secondarily a phone, primarily used for model photography...but carried around for communication's sake.

Think back 25 years ago and imagine yourself saying that...

~Ian
It turns out you can get black confetti in the shape of d'cks...

F4J8

  • Posts: 1
  • Respect: 0
Re: Smart phone camera recommendations?
« Reply #7 on: March 08, 2021, 04:35:44 PM »
0

...

I also use a focus stacker app for my old Android Google Pixel 2 XL that will take up to 20 consecutive photos with a single push of the shutter in about 1/4 second between pre-selected close-focus and far-focus points.  There SHOULD be similar apps available for iOS, but I haven't done any research on them.  I combine the photos after I've taken them in Helicon Focus on my desktop.

...

Cheerio!
Bob Gilmore


I am curious as to what app you use to take a burst of photos for stacking.  I have recently been looking for such a thing.


I have recently recently received a few images that were stacked using Combine ZP.  The sets of images for stacking were taken on a new iphone using the app Stay Focused to take the set.

It would seem that it would be easier to write an iOS app because of the imited number of phone types compared to Android and the large number of phone types.  I have also recently become aware that Android has something called Camera2 that controls the camera and that not all Android phones implement Camera2.  There are scanners that will return what functions are available to the user.  My phone only has limited implementation of Camera2 and that may be the real thing that limits getting sets for stacking.

Fred J.

Cajonpassfan

  • Crew
  • *
  • Posts: 5398
  • Respect: +1973
Re: Smart phone camera recommendations?
« Reply #8 on: March 08, 2021, 08:49:47 PM »
0
My main consideration when looking at phone cameras is the position of the lens/lenses from the side of the phone.  I want lenses that are position as near to the edge of the phone as possible...ideally a scale 5' 7"....which is eye-level for a six foot tall N-scale human so I can get model railroad photos that look like they were taken by that N-scale 6' tall human.   This measurement is from the center of the lens to the edge of the phone.

Although really good phone cameras are available for general photography, which includes "God's Eyeview" N-scale photography from high above the track, only a relatively few phone cameras are available that position the primary lens close enough to the edge of the phone.
...

Good luck, and let us know what you finally decide okay?

Cheerio!
Bob Gilmore

Umm, Bob, iPhone 12 Pro, see #2 above :P
As to the lens placement, this one is about 7 N scale feet for two of the three lenses, without the protective case.
Attached some random shots, without any manipulation or app use. I see already I’m not going to be happy with some of my modeling work; sins and imperfections magnified. Careful what we wish for, I guess...
(Moderators, please feel free to move this to the photo section. I only placed it here because I needed very quick feedback).
Thanks,
Otto K.

peteski

  • Crew
  • *
  • Posts: 35202
  • Gender: Male
  • Honorary Resident Curmudgeon
  • Respect: +6608
    • Coming (not so) soon...
Re: Smart phone camera recommendations?
« Reply #9 on: March 08, 2021, 08:55:25 PM »
0
(Moderators, please feel free to move this to the photo section. I only placed it here because I needed very quick feedback).
Thanks,
Otto K.

And you think that starting this thread in the proper forum to begin with would have not been this fruitful?   :?
. . . 42 . . .

RBrodzinsky

  • Crew
  • *
  • Posts: 1205
  • Gender: Male
  • Respect: +426
Re: Smart phone camera recommendations?
« Reply #10 on: March 08, 2021, 08:58:58 PM »
0
Otto, the new iPhones allow for adjusting the f-stop, which can help with depth of field. While one doesn’t, necessarily, want everything in focus, for illusion of real depth, you may want a bit more than in a couple of those photos.

I’ve also gotten a phone holder for tripod mounting (and even a gimbal for videos)
Rick Brodzinsky
Chief Engineer - JACALAR Railroad
Silicon Valley FreeMo-N

Cajonpassfan

  • Crew
  • *
  • Posts: 5398
  • Respect: +1973
Re: Smart phone camera recommendations?
« Reply #11 on: March 08, 2021, 09:12:45 PM »
0
And you think that starting this thread in the proper forum to begin with would have not been this fruitful?   :?

Not as quick I don’t think, and I had a very short window, may a few hour. Just playing the odds, Pete, 😎
Otto

Cajonpassfan

  • Crew
  • *
  • Posts: 5398
  • Respect: +1973
Re: Smart phone camera recommendations?
« Reply #12 on: March 08, 2021, 09:16:07 PM »
0
Otto, the new iPhones allow for adjusting the f-stop, which can help with depth of field. While one doesn’t, necessarily, want everything in focus, for illusion of real depth, you may want a bit more than in a couple of those photos.

I’ve also gotten a phone holder for tripod mounting (and even a gimbal for videos)

Right, thanks Rick. I just haven’t had the time to mess with it...still trying to get my other devices sync’d and my text messaging to work. It’s a process😬
Thanks everyone, appreciate the feedback.
Otto

robert3985

  • Crew
  • *
  • Posts: 3538
  • Respect: +1901
Re: Smart phone camera recommendations?
« Reply #13 on: March 09, 2021, 01:13:47 PM »
0

I am curious as to what app you use to take a burst of photos for stacking.  I have recently been looking for such a thing.


I have recently recently received a few images that were stacked using Combine ZP.  The sets of images for stacking were taken on a new iphone using the app Stay Focused to take the set.

It would seem that it would be easier to write an iOS app because of the imited number of phone types compared to Android and the large number of phone types.  I have also recently become aware that Android has something called Camera2 that controls the camera and that not all Android phones implement Camera2.  There are scanners that will return what functions are available to the user.  My phone only has limited implementation of Camera2 and that may be the real thing that limits getting sets for stacking.

Fred J.

Fred @F4J8 The app I use is called "Open Camera" and I've discussed it in the Photography Forum here: https://www.therailwire.net/forum/index.php?topic=45972.0 

I believe the app is Android only, but it's been a while since I've looked at its homepage since my phone is Android...so maybe things have changed.

The image burst feature of the Open Camera app is exactly what I was looking for and influenced my purchase of the Google Pixel2 XL when I bought it a few years ago, as well as the phone's camera lens position.

Cheerio!
Bob Gilmore