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Re: Another run of Kato F7s in UP, SP, B&O and MILW later this year
« Reply #15 on: February 09, 2021, 03:42:27 PM »
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It seems like the grey roof was earlier (there's some F3 sets without the trim) and by the time F7 production started they had the black roofs with the yellow trim.
The last grey units were 89 ABC and the Orange and maroon stated on f7s with the 7/50 order.

Its hard to find pictures and even harder to distinguish the black, the yellow trim is the giveaway tho.

Page 202 of Fred Hydes loco book has a color shot of 87c with a black roof (in 1961!) And a B/W shot of 89C/B/A in 1950 with a black roof (with the yellowtrim at least)
So I would guess 88A/B/C should have black roofs...

I'll keep digging, excited to get a set either way...

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Re: Another run of Kato F7s in UP, SP, B&O and MILW later this year
« Reply #16 on: February 09, 2021, 04:29:19 PM »
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I be reserving some Milwaukee.  I have this photo saved, I pulled it off the Bay.  It was not dated, but I thought it was neat to see mixed with orange and maroon stripe units

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Nice surprise from Kato

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Re: Another run of Kato F7s in UP, SP, B&O and MILW later this year
« Reply #17 on: February 10, 2021, 10:31:12 AM »
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I don't need any of these particular road names, but as a 50s modeler with a small army of F units, good to see more in production if only for chassis and parts availability. 

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Re: Another run of Kato F7s in UP, SP, B&O and MILW later this year
« Reply #18 on: February 10, 2021, 11:40:39 AM »
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Curious that they are making only a single A-B set for each roadname, instead of a pair of A-B sets - or at least an A-B set, plus a second A unit.

A Kato MILW FP7 renumbered from the 90 series to the 60 series for freight service in the late 1950's (or early 1960's?) might work as a second A for the MILW A-B sets, assuming the FP7's were renumbered and reassigned before the F7's were repainted...
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Re: Another run of Kato F7s in UP, SP, B&O and MILW later this year
« Reply #19 on: February 10, 2021, 12:50:16 PM »
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A Kato MILW FP7 renumbered from the 90 series to the 60 series for freight service in the late 1950's (or early 1960's?) might work as a second A for the MILW A-B sets, assuming the FP7's were renumbered and reassigned before the F7's were repainted...

Looks like one of the easiest to renumber. Number boards are pretty simple and the very small number on the rear carbody shouldn't be that hard, I think Micr Scale makes the decal set for them.

I'll be getting several of them.

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Re: Another run of Kato F7s in UP, SP, B&O and MILW later this year
« Reply #20 on: February 10, 2021, 12:59:06 PM »
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Cool. Maybe we'll finally get some single headlight undecs.  8)

let's hope so. My wallet would take a beating for sure.

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Re: Another run of Kato F7s in UP, SP, B&O and MILW later this year
« Reply #21 on: February 10, 2021, 07:07:21 PM »
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Cool. Maybe we'll finally get some single headlight undecs.  8)

let's hope so. My wallet would take a beating for sure.

Probably only as shells from the parts store.  Still that's something.  I may have to check and see how close they are to the PRR F7's
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Re: Another run of Kato F7s in UP, SP, B&O and MILW later this year
« Reply #22 on: February 10, 2021, 07:38:01 PM »
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Oh crud!  I might have to buy at least three sets. The B&O is the only one I don’t need.
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Re: Another run of Kato F7s in UP, SP, B&O and MILW later this year
« Reply #23 on: February 10, 2021, 08:16:59 PM »
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B&O 4503 was originally 243A. I guess they are trying to do this scheme:

http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/bo/bo4499s.jpg (4499 photo from April 1958).

Note that the B&O emblem on the nose is not a stencil - it appears to be a cast plate!  :D

Some of the units lasted well into the 60s in this scheme: 4499 in March 1966: http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/bo/bo4499ads.jpg

The later scheme (adopted 1964 I think, following the brief 1962-1963 "Sunburst" scheme) example: Here's 4503 in April 1975:  http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/bo/bo4503goc.jpg

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Re: Another run of Kato F7s in UP, SP, B&O and MILW later this
« Reply #24 on: February 11, 2021, 10:44:17 PM »
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Beano was produced more recently than that.....the Slumbercoach included B&O!!
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Re: Another run of Kato F7s in UP, SP, B&O and MILW later this year
« Reply #25 on: February 12, 2021, 08:26:43 AM »
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Some of the units lasted well into the 60s in this scheme: 4499 in March 1966: http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/bo/bo4499ads.jpg

If you look close, I think this is the somewhat simplified B&O scheme, wherein the gray was eliminated, so it's blue above the top gold stripe.

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Re: Another run of Kato F7s in UP, SP, B&O and MILW later this year
« Reply #26 on: February 12, 2021, 12:05:49 PM »
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I’m still trying to figure out the roof color dates too. It’s possible it corresponded to the August 1949 change from gray to black roofs on passenger cars.

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Re: Another run of Kato F7s in UP, SP, B&O and MILW later this year
« Reply #27 on: February 12, 2021, 02:14:20 PM »
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I be reserving some Milwaukee.  I have this photo saved, I pulled it off the Bay.  It was not dated, but I thought it was neat to see mixed with orange and maroon stripe units

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Nice surprise from Kato

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You can certainly do this lashup using the F7B that was released with the Olympian Hiawatha.  There were no FP7 B units; they just used F7B units between the two FP7A units. 

I ordered two sets of the A/B sets; easy to change the numbers to get a 4 unit set.

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Re: Another run of Kato F7s in UP, SP, B&O and MILW later this year
« Reply #28 on: February 12, 2021, 02:21:14 PM »
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So could one of these Milwaukee F7s be found on the Olympian Hiawatha? I'm all about having options on these trains instead of having cookie cutter looks like everyone else at a train show.

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Re: Another run of Kato F7s in UP, SP, B&O and MILW later this year
« Reply #29 on: February 12, 2021, 05:34:54 PM »
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So could one of these Milwaukee F7s be found on the Olympian Hiawatha? I'm all about having options on these trains instead of having cookie cutter looks like everyone else at a train show.

Chris

I believe this was a freight scheme only.
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