Another run of Kato F7s in UP, SP, B&O and MILW later this year

[sd45elect2000]

So could one of these Milwaukee F7s be found on the Olympian Hiawatha? I'm all about having options on these trains instead of having cookie cutter looks like everyone else at a train show.

Chris

The Milwaukee used a large variety of power to move it's passenger trains. F-7s in this scheme are not one of them.

FP-7s ala Kato
E-7s Broadway, Kato, Lifelike
E-6 Broadway, Lifelike
E-9 Kato, Broadway (1955)
RSC2 Kato
Erie Built Lifelike
DL-109 Lifelike

Steam

Randy

[CBQ Fan]

Intermountain has FP7’s also.

[altohorn25]

So could one of these Milwaukee F7s be found on the Olympian Hiawatha? I'm all about having options on these trains instead of having cookie cutter looks like everyone else at a train show.

Chris

No - the grey paint job on F units was NOT used on passenger trains.  I've never seen a photo of it.

[Mark5]

If you look close, I think this is the somewhat simplified B&O scheme, wherein the gray was eliminated, so it's blue above the top gold stripe.

DFF

Good eye. A somewhat complicated matter I guess. 

https://baltimoreandohiorailroadlist.groups.io/g/main/topic/1950_s_changes_in_b_o_f_unit/71886356?p=,,,20,0,0,0::recentpostdate%2Fsticky,,,20,2,0,71886356

PS: now on Kato site: http://www.katousa.com/N/F7/index.html

[sd45elect2000]

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There were some similarities between freight and passenger schemes. I am looking forward to the new Kato engines. The Milwaukee F-3s were also delivered in this scheme.

The Lifelike E-7s are in the as delivered paint. I have a few of the other schemes as well.

Randy

[sd45elect2000]

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Here are some of my passenger engines. Over the years I've collected all of the Milwaukee passenger diesels except for the E-9s.

Steam is a little tougher.....

[basementcalling]

What I'm finding interesting from seeing some dealers post reservation links is Kato managed to hold the line on prices for these units. $120-130 for an AB pair is pretty comparable to what they went for even initially. Funny how they can do that on an F unit, but prices for ACs and SD70s increase from run to run.

[davefoxx]

What I'm finding interesting from seeing some dealers post reservation links is Kato managed to hold the line on prices for these units. $120-130 for an AB pair is pretty comparable to what they went for even initially. Funny how they can do that on an F unit, but prices for ACs and SD70s increase from run to run.

Maybe they've already amortized the cost of the molds on the F-units.

DFF

[keeper]

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A bit off topic, but which one of those would have pülled the MT heavyweights?

Thomas

[sd45elect2000]

A bit off topic, but which one of those would have pülled the MT heavyweights?

Thomas

All of them. There were tour trains to Western parks and any of these passenger engines would have pulled the trains. In addition the Columbian has heavyweight cars in its consist until very late.

[keeper]

Ok, thank you.

[Tom L]

No production photos posted yet or updated shipping info on Katos website yet. Still down as August 2021.

Hoping we see these soon, not complaining, just anxiously looking forward to them.

Tom L
Wellington CO

[thomasjmdavis]

Maybe they've already amortized the cost of the molds on the F-units.

DFF

I would suspect they fully amortized the mold costs on previous Santa Fe passenger units alone, since we tend to buy those 4 at a time, and many of us several times.

The F units are also the "entry model" that introduces thousands of modelers to Kato quality- and so keeping them within the budget of "Christmas train set" owners looking to take a step up will encourage Unitrak and passenger set sales for years to come.
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For all the discussion about what passenger train these might or might not be useful for, these all appear to be freight units- I would note that none of those pictured in the Kato press release cited near the beginning of this thread has a steam generator.  Of course, B units might, but in past ATSF passenger releases, "B unit is steam generator equipped" is usually (always?) noted in the caption, if the B unit is not shown.

[CBQ Fan]

Every unit states “no steam generator” on the website.

[Maletrain]

Every unit states “no steam generator” on the website.

And how soon could some of the 3D wizards on this forum whip up some steam generator details to apply to those freight units?