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Re: National Virtual Train Show on now at Trainworld Facebook.
« Reply #15 on: July 17, 2020, 09:11:29 AM »
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I don’t have Facebook and was able to watch some of it before I had to join a meeting. Apparently you can watch some Facebook live things without an account.

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Re: National Virtual Train Show on now at Trainworld Facebook.
« Reply #16 on: July 17, 2020, 10:13:18 AM »
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This is good news for me:

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This design is very close to the N&W H12 class (the N&W car is slightly longer). H12s were also built for Conrail and a bunch of other roads as well (including a swap with UP of a handful of cars).

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Re: National Virtual Train Show on now at Trainworld Facebook.
« Reply #17 on: July 17, 2020, 10:40:26 AM »
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OK so the Facebook video is open to non-subscribers.

Bachmann:
Hudson obviously.
GP38 with sound. Both DB and non DB versions. The drawings show a GP38-2 early phase with the square air filter box.
Bethlehem 100t hoppers
40' high cube appliance box with smooth sides and regular or sliding doors. All new tooling? I hope.


Didn't see anything else notable. Athearn did mention a 53 trailer but didn't show anything.

40' Hi-Cube with plug door is old tooling.

http://www.spookshow.net/freight/bachcube.html

The sliding door version appears to be the plug door car with an disgustingly thick and incorrect Pullman-Standard sliding door molded over the plug door. :facepalm:

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Re: National Virtual Train Show on now at Trainworld Facebook.
« Reply #18 on: July 17, 2020, 10:49:35 AM »
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This is good news for me:

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This design is very close to the N&W H12 class (the N&W car is slightly longer). H12s were also built for Conrail and a bunch of other roads as well (including a swap with UP of a handful of cars).

Mark

Hahahahahah. Those cars are almost 10x the price of what I usually pay for Atlas versions of these cars that are of similar quality. Wow.

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Re: National Virtual Train Show on now at Trainworld Facebook.
« Reply #19 on: July 17, 2020, 10:58:30 AM »
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Hahahahahah. Those cars are almost 10x the price of what I usually pay for Atlas versions of these cars that are of similar quality. Wow.

Yeah true. :lol: Needless to say I won't be buying many to strip.

The Atlas car is based on the H11 (H43 to Conrailians). Very different slope sheets.

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Re: National Virtual Train Show on now at Trainworld Facebook.
« Reply #20 on: July 17, 2020, 11:01:40 AM »
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This is good news for me:

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This design is very close to the N&W H12 class (the N&W car is slightly longer). H12s were also built for Conrail and a bunch of other roads as well (including a swap with UP of a handful of cars).

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Suggested Price: $47.00.   :o

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Re: National Virtual Train Show on now at Trainworld Facebook.
« Reply #21 on: July 17, 2020, 11:08:28 AM »
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I watched on and off over the course of the whole show.  I missed the Atlas and InterMountain presentations.  Did anyone catch those two?  Was there anything of note for N scale from them?

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Re: National Virtual Train Show on now at Trainworld Facebook.
« Reply #22 on: July 17, 2020, 11:08:37 AM »
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There was a very awkward exchange when after most of the chat was complaining about the Bachmann prices where the guy from Trainworld told everybody to check their dealer for 'actual' pricing.  The guy from Bachmann was definitely taken aback by that.  For some reason he felt compelled to mentioned it was against the law for Bachmann to force retailers to sell at a certain price.


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Re: National Virtual Train Show on now at Trainworld Facebook.
« Reply #23 on: July 17, 2020, 11:12:56 AM »
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Yeah true. :lol: Needless to say I won't be buying many to strip.

The Atlas car is based on the H11 (H43 to Conrailians). Very different slope sheets.

Mark

$47.00?!?!

“You patented it, and packaged it, and slapped a $47 MSRP on it and now they’re selling it, they’re selling it!

-I don’t think you’re giving us our due credit. Our company is releasing an N Scale hopper that nobody’s ever done before!

Yeah, yeah but your company is so preoccupied with whether or not they could sell a hopper for $47.00, they didn't stop to think if they should!”

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Re: National Virtual Train Show on now at Trainworld Facebook.
« Reply #24 on: July 17, 2020, 11:13:26 AM »
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ATSF - note the 9' Youngstown doors that aren't as thick as a slab of concrete compared to the wider PS doors that Botchmann used



CNW - another example where Botchmann's sliding door is useless

https://www.cnwhs.org/imggallery/displayimage.php?pid=1973&fullsize=1

Off the top of my head, I recall UP also had some non-PS cars with interior posts and sliding doors in addition to ATSF and CNW
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Re: National Virtual Train Show on now at Trainworld Facebook.
« Reply #25 on: July 17, 2020, 11:14:59 AM »
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IIRC, the Hi Cubes shown were HO stand ins..

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Re: National Virtual Train Show on now at Trainworld Facebook.
« Reply #26 on: July 17, 2020, 11:29:02 AM »
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Suggested Price: $47.00.   :o

Honestly, this is SOP for Bachmann. They have long held the record for most ridiculous list pricing. :trollface:

Street price is what is relevant. For example, the TOFC flat with the nice 35 foot trailer is list $52.00, but you can buy them now online for $20.

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Re: National Virtual Train Show on now at Trainworld Facebook.
« Reply #27 on: July 17, 2020, 11:32:28 AM »
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IIRC, the Hi Cubes shown were HO stand ins..

Jason

Based on Botchmann's 50' car with the overly-thick sliding doors that appear to be molded directly over the plug doors,  I'd expect the forthcoming N cars to have the same problem

http://www.spookshow.net/freight/bach50sdbox.html

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Re: National Virtual Train Show on now at Trainworld Facebook.
« Reply #28 on: July 17, 2020, 12:03:09 PM »
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Also cool is that Eric from MTL said the tooling is now being "cut" on the PS-2 2 bay covered hoppers (coming 2021):

https://www.micro-trains.com/ps2-2bay

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Re: National Virtual Train Show on now at Trainworld Facebook.
« Reply #29 on: July 17, 2020, 12:10:20 PM »
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Also cool is that Eric from MTL said the tooling is now being "cut" on the PS-2 2 bay covered hoppers (coming 2021):


Too bad he couldn't 'show'.   :P

Jason