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TimF

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Do non-DCC GP40 shells fit on newer DCC-Ready mechanism?
« on: July 14, 2020, 01:47:23 PM »
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I could get some older Atlas GP40 (made back in the 1990s) in BN and want to put the shells on newer DCC ready mechanisms, do the yfit or do I have to file off some material?

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Re: Do non-DCC GP40 shells fit on newer DCC-Ready mechanism?
« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2020, 02:42:45 PM »
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I am 90% sure you'll be ok.

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Re: Do non-DCC GP40 shells fit on newer DCC-Ready mechanism?
« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2020, 03:18:55 PM »
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If you can fit a CN-GP decoder in, I'd recommend going that route. You'll retain the heavier frames that way.

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Re: Do non-DCC GP40 shells fit on newer DCC-Ready mechanism?
« Reply #3 on: July 14, 2020, 03:56:55 PM »
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Is this the Atlas unit or an Atlas/Kato unit?
If it is the Atlas: I have done this swap multiple times. It is a direct swap. No modification necessary. I have done this swap from what I am aware around 8 or 9 times, and only had a problem once, where the shell was loose. Ended up selling that one before I got the chance to look at it in detail, but I assume it was something I did, rather than the shell itself.
For the Atlas/Kato: not compatible without extreme modification. The handrails and porch are part of the frame and are metal. The shell itself comes off, but since it has no walkway, is not compatible with the newer mechanism, unless you put the newer walkway from the original shell under it. I have not tried this. The Atlas/Kato mechanism is also not TCS CN compatible. The unit I had was a GP38, not a GP40, so I am unsure if they were offered as GP40s, but most likely yes.

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Re: Do non-DCC GP40 shells fit on newer DCC-Ready mechanism?
« Reply #4 on: July 14, 2020, 04:16:11 PM »
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I replaced all 10 of older DC GP40 (non DCC friendly frames) with the DCC frames and had no issues

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Re: Do non-DCC GP40 shells fit on newer DCC-Ready mechanism?
« Reply #5 on: July 14, 2020, 04:53:53 PM »
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Is this the Atlas unit or an Atlas/Kato unit?
If it is the Atlas: I have done this swap multiple times. It is a direct swap. No modification necessary. I have done this swap from what I am aware around 8 or 9 times, and only had a problem once, where the shell was loose. Ended up selling that one before I got the chance to look at it in detail, but I assume it was something I did, rather than the shell itself.
For the Atlas/Kato: not compatible without extreme modification. The handrails and porch are part of the frame and are metal. The shell itself comes off, but since it has no walkway, is not compatible with the newer mechanism, unless you put the newer walkway from the original shell under it. I have not tried this. The Atlas/Kato mechanism is also not TCS CN compatible. The unit I had was a GP38, not a GP40, so I am unsure if they were offered as GP40s, but most likely yes.

Kato didn't make a GP40 for Atlas.  Kato did make a GP38-2 and GP50 that were sold as Kato products and were totally different than anything Kato made for Atlas