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Contemporary steel pier/sea wall
« on: April 07, 2020, 08:29:15 PM »
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I’ve been looking at the various Evergreen styrene sheets for something to represent this in N scale. The websites are hard to get a good look. Normally I would go to the shop and eyeball it but with current events that’s not possible. Any ideas whether any of the styles would work this after some good paint and weathering? Thanks.

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Re: Contemporary steel pier/sea wall
« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2020, 08:48:34 PM »
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I don't know that Evergreen comes in  sheets that work, but these guys have a sheet pile wall:

https://www.artitecshop.com/en/quay-wall-steel-1160.html

@Ngineer has this in his shapeways shop : https://www.shapeways.com/product/ESWYXTVNX/n-scale-sheet-piling-customizable

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Re: Contemporary steel pier/sea wall
« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2020, 12:18:20 AM »
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Are the ribs always square, or would Evergreen "corrugated siding", in one of the large sizes, work? 
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Re: Contemporary steel pier/sea wall
« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2020, 06:33:09 AM »
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I’ve been looking at the various Evergreen styrene sheets for something to represent this in N scale. The websites are hard to get a good look. Normally I would go to the shop and eyeball it but with current events that’s not possible. Any ideas whether any of the styles would work this after some good paint and weathering? Thanks.

Do you have a picture of what you want to build?

would this work?

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3347795

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Re: Contemporary steel pier/sea wall
« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2020, 07:54:24 AM »
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Something similar to this. A lot of the more modern industrial docks use these pilings. I’ve seen the Chooch ones online but not in person. How do they look for N scale? It worries me when they say HO/N.

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Re: Contemporary steel pier/sea wall
« Reply #6 on: April 08, 2020, 01:26:50 PM »
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Depending on the austerity of your facility, I've seen full sides of N&W hoppers used as sheet pile.  It was at a marina at Smith Mountain Lake, and the lettering and reporting marks were plainly visible.  Circa 1981.
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Re: Contemporary steel pier/sea wall
« Reply #7 on: April 08, 2020, 02:16:26 PM »
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That looks like the Evergreen metal siding, but I don't know if it would have enough depth.
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Re: Contemporary steel pier/sea wall
« Reply #8 on: April 08, 2020, 07:09:30 PM »
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I would use one of the Metal Siding shapes. I use them for N Scale containers although something a little larger would work for this. Looking at the Evergreen site, evergreenscalemodels.com, I don't see Metal siding anymore. Board and Batten might be your best bet. 4542, 43, and 44.

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Re: Contemporary steel pier/sea wall
« Reply #9 on: April 09, 2020, 12:18:35 AM »
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KSmiley:  Interesting.  What I have, 0.060 spacing metal siding, is #4527.  They still show #4527, under corrugated siding, but the illustration now shows rounded corrugations, which is what it should have had to start with.  I guess they changed the product, and reused the number.
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Re: Contemporary steel pier/sea wall
« Reply #10 on: April 09, 2020, 08:58:43 AM »
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Yeah, wow, I just bought some what i thought was 'Corrugated' 4525 from HobbyLinc and the package said 'Metal Siding', still 4525 product code. I have in my stash a 4528 with larger 'corrugations', .080" spacing, which I was thinking for the sea wall but its not on the Evergreen site anymore. May want to check the online stores, this stuff moves slow, which fortunate for guys like us!

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Re: Contemporary steel pier/sea wall
« Reply #11 on: April 09, 2020, 02:35:31 PM »
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I used the original "Metal Siding" for a retaining wall in my mining town, based on Wallace, Idaho.  With the ribs horizontal, it was a very close match to their metal walls, and took much of a package.  But that was 20 years ago, and I haven't bought any since. 

If a company makes that big a change in a product, I would think they'd also change the part number!
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Re: Contemporary steel pier/sea wall
« Reply #12 on: April 09, 2020, 03:14:42 PM »
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If this is for a seaport, this link shows the "height" at around 450mm with a pattern repeat of 1.6 m.
https://sheetpiling.arcelormittal.com/products-services/production-range/az-sections/
Hmm, can you split pencils lengthwise and use them to make a mold?
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Re: Contemporary steel pier/sea wall
« Reply #13 on: April 10, 2020, 12:35:54 AM »
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Plastruct used to make hexagonal rod/bar, but I haven't looked at their catalog in many years.  If they still do, that might be easier than splitting pencils.

Or, since it interlocks in the middle of the flats, and you wouldn't have to hide the seam, make one "section", and cast as many as you need.  That would actually be two pieces, judging by the picture, but I'd make a half-wide recessed panel on each side, and a full rib, for each piece, then glue it all together on a backing of some kind.
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Re: Contemporary steel pier/sea wall
« Reply #14 on: April 10, 2020, 08:06:49 AM »
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Come to think of it, if you cut off the eraser ferrules they should stack tightly.  You could lay down one layer and add a layer on top.  Make a mold box, cut the pencils to length, lay side by side, glue or Modpodge to seal, and pour a 6 inch wall section.
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