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Billg

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Atlantic
« on: February 08, 2019, 09:24:26 AM »
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Hi all,

I'm looking for recommendations on a steam locomotive to use with a 2 or 3 car '40's passenger train.  I'd like an Atlantic but don't know which manufacturer makes the best runner.  I'll do the conversion to sound so a straight DC loco would be great.

Any suggestions???

Thanks,

Bill
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Re: Atlantic
« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2019, 01:09:46 PM »
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Nobody makes an Atlantic. Ugh.

Is there a specific prototype you're looking to emulate?

You might be able to make some hay with one of the Model Power/MRC 4-4-0s or 2-6-0s.

Alternatively, PRR K4s were used for all SORTS of passenger work from limiteds on the Broad Way of Commerce to local passenger jobs or things between.

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Re: Atlantic
« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2019, 01:18:44 PM »
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I like the Bachmann 4-6-0 for a short passenger train, especially with a smaller tender. M.B. Klein still has a couple of road names and they are running a 10% off sale on Bachmann through the end of today, I believe.

The 2-8-0 consol would be another good candidate. They did a little of everything.
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Re: Atlantic
« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2019, 02:38:03 PM »
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Nobody makes an Atlantic. Ugh.

Is there a specific prototype you're looking to emulate?


Huh?  Then what's this?



If he happens to model early Bavarian railroad, then he is in luck.    :trollface: :D

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Re: Atlantic
« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2019, 03:01:36 PM »
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Man, talk about pizza cutters... those things could slice up three pies at once!
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Re: Atlantic
« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2019, 03:45:57 PM »
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It looks like the flanges are hitting the "spikes" on that code 80 rail
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Re: Atlantic
« Reply #6 on: February 08, 2019, 03:49:33 PM »
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They just slice the "spikes" off.

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Re: Atlantic
« Reply #7 on: February 08, 2019, 04:29:06 PM »
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Man, talk about pizza cutters... those things could slice up three pies at once!

Yeah, early Minitrix (um,early N-scale anything) had huge flanges.  The fact that those are not blackened, makes them look even larger!  But even now, many European N scale models still have rather deep flanges
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Re: Atlantic
« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2019, 04:58:02 PM »
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Well - there is/was one US prototype in N-Scale:

http://www.foxvalleymodels.com/NLoco-Steam.html

Hiawatha 4-4-2. Latest production has been on hold for a bit though...

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Re: Atlantic
« Reply #9 on: February 08, 2019, 05:52:40 PM »
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Well - there is/was one US prototype in N-Scale:

http://www.foxvalleymodels.com/NLoco-Steam.html

Hiawatha 4-4-2. Latest production has been on hold for a bit though...


LOL, how did I forgot?  I own 2 of them.  :facepalm:

I think though, that the original question was about an earlier (smaller) Atlantic (the Hiawatha Atlantic is a larger loco, designed to pull a long train of longer passenger cars).
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Re: Atlantic
« Reply #10 on: February 08, 2019, 07:50:43 PM »
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Re: Atlantic
« Reply #11 on: February 08, 2019, 08:26:27 PM »
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The power that is out there in N scale for what you want:

Model Power/MRC eight wheeler-The newest versions have sound and DCC.  There are the old MPs before MRC bought the company that do not have sound or DCC.  If you buy one of those, and, they can be had for low cost (relatively), you should also purchase a B-mann SPECTRUM USRA short or USRA standard tender or a Kato USRA standard, as those tenders are all wheels live.  The old MP has only half wheels live stock tenders.  The MRC/MPs have all wheels live tenders.  The MRC/MPs also have traction tryres while the old MPs do not.

Model Power/MRC USRA light Pacific-The current issues have only half wheels live tenders, so you would have to buy an all wheels live KATO or B-mann USRA Standard.  Some of the current issues do have DCC and sound, some do not.

Bachmann ten wheeler-This has factory DCC but no sound.  It has sixty three inch drivers, which are small for a passenger ten-wheeler, but, there were several out there with drivers that small.  For a local, speed is usually not a major concern, anyhow. 

Other possibilities:

MP/MRC Mogul-Same comments as the eight wheeler.  More than one road had moguls equipped with steam lines and signalling devices for passenger work; SP and B&M probably had the most.

KATO USRA heavy 2-8-2-An excellent steam locomotive and one of the yardsticks against which all N scale steam is measured.  P&LE equipped some of their H-9s with steam lines and signalling devices for passenger work.  Supposedly, this was to allow them to work crew shuttles, but, more than one of the H-9s pulled a commuter train when there were no Pacifics, ten wheelers or Hudsons available.  There may have been other roads that so equipped their USRA heavy mikados (WP?).

MP/MRC USRA light 2-8-2- Same comments as the USRA light Pacific.  UP had a series of what were essentially copies of the USRA light 2-8-2 that it called "Mountain MacArthurs" which worked locals on the OSL and in Wyoming.  They were a few feet longer than the USRA light, but, other than that, they looked just like one.  There may have been other roads that equipped their USRA light mikados (or copies).

Athearn/MDC Mogul-  You could do some updates to reflect an old locomotive rebuilt repeatedly by altering some details (such as the mantle clock headlight fixture) and adding a few (such as a power reverse and a generator).

B-mann 2-8-0-Early versions of this were try-before-you-buy, but B-mann has addressed most of those problems.  It has fifty eight inch drivers, which is somewhat small for passenger work, but, you could get away with it.

B-mann ALCo Mogul-It is a good locomotive.  It has sixty inch drivers, which are small for passenger work, but you would get away with using it.


If you  model SP, the GS classes pulled SF Peninsula commuter trains in the 1950s (Kato or C-C)

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Re: Atlantic
« Reply #12 on: February 08, 2019, 09:56:45 PM »
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Only two?



I'm mostly into B&M and Amtrak.   :P  :)
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Re: Atlantic
« Reply #13 on: February 09, 2019, 10:14:55 AM »
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OK, how about a recommendation for a 4-4-2 that's available today?
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Re: Atlantic
« Reply #14 on: February 09, 2019, 11:57:00 AM »
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OK, how about a recommendation for a 4-4-2 that's available today?

For an american prototype, there is only one out there, and like mentioned above it's a Hiawatha 4-4-2 by Fox Valley.

Or you can try your hand at scratchbuilding and build your own.
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