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mmagliaro

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Looking at a station model on my layout, I was thinking of adding the warning stripe along edge facing the track with some sort of sign admonishing passengers to "Stand Behind Yellow Line" or some such thing.

Then I wondered:

Did stations always have these?  Even in the 1950s or earlier? 

Anybody have a photo of what the stripe and signs really looked like back then?

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Re: When did stations start having "Stay Behind Yellow Line" warnings?
« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2018, 03:47:55 PM »
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I'm going to speculate here, but it may have come in (at least as a mandate) as part of the Americans with Disabilities Act of 1979.  Contrasting stripe for people with visual disabilities.

No one cared about safety in the 1950s.  Cars didn't even have seat belts.

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Re: When did stations start having "Stay Behind Yellow Line" warnings?
« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2018, 03:52:06 PM »
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I'm going to speculate here, but it may have come in (at least as a mandate) as part of the Americans with Disabilities Act of 1979.  Contrasting stripe for people with visual disabilities.

No one cared about safety in the 1950s.  Cars didn't even have seat belts.

So lets clarify - the nubby plastic stuff is for ADA comliance:



 I think what @mmagliaro is after is information on generally platform edge painting.

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Re: When did stations start having "Stay Behind Yellow Line" warnings?
« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2018, 06:04:09 PM »
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" I think what @mmagliaro is after is information on generally platform edge painting."

Yes, and also I'd like to know if there were typically any signs like "Do not cross line".
From what I can see in a lot of old station platform photos I've been looking at, I don't think there was ANYTHING.
Lots of them don't even have a white or other color stripe painted along the edge facing the tracks.   Bigger city stations may have been different, but I'm shooting for more of a wooden rural depot structure.

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Re: When did stations start having "Stay Behind Yellow Line" warnings?
« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2018, 08:01:26 PM »
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1940's East Dubuque.



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Re: When did stations start having "Stay Behind Yellow Line" warnings?
« Reply #6 on: October 16, 2018, 12:41:54 AM »
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Okay, looks like maybe some white stripes were used. 

Got anything from an older-style *wood* depot, not in a city?  (I know, I know... I'm a pain )

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Re: When did stations start having "Stay Behind Yellow Line" warnings?
« Reply #7 on: October 16, 2018, 12:47:31 AM »
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You know back then there weren't many road markings either.

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Re: When did stations start having "Stay Behind Yellow Line" warnings?
« Reply #8 on: October 16, 2018, 12:51:18 AM »
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I know they were in use on the New Haven in the 1950s.
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Re: When did stations start having "Stay Behind Yellow Line" warnings?
« Reply #9 on: October 16, 2018, 01:40:41 AM »
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As far as I know the NP/BN station in Pasco didn't have anything when we left in 1978.  If there was anything, it wasn't labeled, and would have been just a faded white line.  But I don't remember anything.

The "station track" was very seldom used for anything except passenger trains, especially after Amtrak, and all of the trains stopped there.  So, if there were any people too close to the tracks, they had plenty of time to get out of the way.  Not like some stations where freight trains blew through without slowing.

I have no idea what the "new" Amtrak/bus station has, as I've only been there a couple times, and never looked at the platform.
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Re: When did stations start having "Stay Behind Yellow Line" warnings?
« Reply #10 on: October 16, 2018, 09:36:09 AM »
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Got anything from an older-style *wood* depot, not in a city?  (I know, I know... I'm a pain )
Did you have a particular prototype railroad in mind?

Also, of what material is the platform in question made?
Platforms at rural depots didn't necessarily have a readily paintable surface: http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/milw/milw-sprsta-ana.jpg


 

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Re: When did stations start having "Stay Behind Yellow Line" warnings?
« Reply #11 on: October 16, 2018, 10:32:09 AM »
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My experiences with the B&O and Pennsy were that there were no lines on the platforms I used in the 1950s and 1960s.

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Re: When did stations start having "Stay Behind Yellow Line" warnings?
« Reply #12 on: October 16, 2018, 11:13:00 AM »
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My experiences with the B&O and Pennsy were that there were no lines on the platforms I used in the 1950s and 1960s.
Such as this one?
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/prr/prr-nobdep-jpa.jpg

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Re: When did stations start having "Stay Behind Yellow Line" warnings?
« Reply #13 on: October 17, 2018, 11:11:44 AM »
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Such as this one?
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/prr/prr-nobdep-jpa.jpg

Keep in mind there was GREAT variability in PRR stations. That one is a heavily used commuter stop.
Something further out in the hinterlands might be quite different. Especially if the surface is something like gravel or dirt.

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Re: When did stations start having "Stay Behind Yellow Line" warnings?
« Reply #14 on: October 17, 2018, 01:43:12 PM »
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Something further out in the hinterlands might be quite different.
Probably because there were fewer "ambulance chasers" out in the hinterlands.