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mmagliaro

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Help identify these SP&S tender parts?
« on: December 30, 2017, 04:31:08 AM »
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The photo is below.
I think #2 is a pole for pushing cars when switching (for the early and hazardous technique of pushing cars
using a pole and the poling pockets on the corners of locomotives and freight cars).

What is #1?  Some sort of jack?  A rerail device?  There are two, one on each side of the tender.

Thanks!



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Re: Help identify these SP&S tender parts?
« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2017, 04:37:22 AM »
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1. is a re-railing frog. 2. is a poling pole. It is why older car have poling pockets in their corners.
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On this 44T I glued the frogs right to the sideframes instead of hanging them:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/GaXeHNDlNz1c0Ju12

The other side has the pole:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/nZ5AxwdpdrtaSREp2
« Last Edit: December 30, 2017, 04:42:29 AM by Chris333 »

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Re: Help identify these SP&S tender parts?
« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2017, 04:45:53 AM »
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Excellent, Chris! 
And thank you!

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Re: Help identify these SP&S tender parts?
« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2017, 04:50:26 AM »
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I can't remember the name of the guy. But the frog is a brass piece from a guy in Canada. Someone will know who.

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Re: Help identify these SP&S tender parts?
« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2017, 04:59:16 AM »
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I can't remember the name of the guy. But the frog is a brass piece from a guy in Canada. Someone will know who.

Probably Miniatures by Eric.   I, of course, have to make my own because I sentenced myself to scratchbuild everything that I possibly could. :)

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Re: Help identify these SP&S tender parts?
« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2017, 05:00:02 AM »
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Yes that is him!

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Re: Help identify these SP&S tender parts?
« Reply #6 on: December 31, 2017, 12:55:12 AM »
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A little off-topic, but when did railroads stop putting poling pockets on cars? 

As an example, MT's 50 ft flatcars have them, but I have yet to find a Great Northern flat that does, going back to a few cars built in 1928.  Of course, I don't have pictures of all of the GN's flatcars...
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Re: Help identify these SP&S tender parts?
« Reply #7 on: December 31, 2017, 04:38:33 PM »
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Outlawed in the early 70's I believe .

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Re: Help identify these SP&S tender parts?
« Reply #8 on: December 31, 2017, 11:38:02 PM »
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I believe you're right for when poling was outlawed, but it seems that most builders quit putting them on cars earlier than that.

The NP was still building/buying 40 ft boxcars with them in the very early 1950s, but late '50s 50 ft cars didn't have them.  On the other hand, NP's homebuilt 1943 flatcars have flat endsills with no trace of a poling pocket.  It looks like the boxcars were built to an earlier plan, and nobody told the shops to change the design.
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Re: Help identify these SP&S tender parts?
« Reply #9 on: January 01, 2018, 04:42:08 PM »
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Detail associates also made the re-railer. I may have one floating around if you need it.

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Re: Help identify these SP&S tender parts?
« Reply #10 on: January 01, 2018, 07:30:56 PM »
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The DA part is still available from RLW. About $2.50 a pair last I knew...

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Re: Help identify these SP&S tender parts?
« Reply #11 on: January 02, 2018, 01:31:02 AM »
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The switchman had to have trust that the engineer didn't hate him.

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Re: Help identify these SP&S tender parts?
« Reply #12 on: January 02, 2018, 09:55:56 AM »
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I have re-reilers in N scale available in two styles.

Body mounted



https://jamestrainparts.com/shop/replacement-and-spare-parts/re-railer-detail-part-locomotive-mounted/

And truck mounted.



https://jamestrainparts.com/shop/replacement-and-spare-parts/re-railer-detail-part-truck-mounted/

The one in your photo looks like a truck mounted but attached to the tender chassis.

Cheers, James