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Although Micro-Trains Line pilot conversions will need to be utilized, I was wondering whether or not the first generation (circa 1989 - 1991) U30C shell and walkways will fit properly on Kato's current DCC friendly mechanisms.

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Re: Will 1st Generation Kato U30C Shell Work With Current DCC Friendly Chassis
« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2017, 12:14:55 PM »
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Yes. I swapped my first gen Rock Island shell on the new chassis and it snugged right up.

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Re: Will 1st Generation Kato U30C Shell Work With Current DCC Friendly Chassis
« Reply #2 on: November 30, 2017, 12:27:10 PM »
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Yes. I swapped my first gen Rock Island shell on the new chassis and it snugged right up.

Thanks.

As I was looking to upgrade my Chessie and Seaboard System units, your response is greatly appreciated.

Now I'm going to have to locate some of the rather scarce Burlington Northern units in order to come up with the black fuel tanks and trucks.

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Re: Will 1st Generation Kato U30C Shell Work With Current DCC Friendly Chassis
« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2017, 01:05:25 PM »
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To go along with what Ghengis said.
The shells will swap with no issue, I've done it several times.
One thing to watch for, the first time I did this I noticed the headlight wasn't very bright.
On the old chassis the the LED was up and right behind the glazing.
With the DCC ready chassis they extended the light tube so that it extends and bends down, right in front of the surface mount LED which sits back on the drop-in chip.
If you can find these new glazing they are also interchangeable into the old shells.


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Re: Will 1st Generation Kato U30C Shell Work With Current DCC Friendly Chassis
« Reply #4 on: November 30, 2017, 02:05:42 PM »
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Hmmmm.... I had to thin the center inside of the shell where it sits against the sides of the motor and the contacts between frame and board. This is with a TCS decoder installed. There is an indented area on the original shell, but it needs to be extended to the top of the hood, otherwise I felt it was too tight a fit. How did you guys get the shell on without jamming it in?

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Re: Will 1st Generation Kato U30C Shell Work With Current DCC Friendly Chassis
« Reply #5 on: November 30, 2017, 07:54:48 PM »
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To go along with what Ghengis said.
The shells will swap with no issue, I've done it several times.
One thing to watch for, the first time I did this I noticed the headlight wasn't very bright.
On the old chassis the the LED was up and right behind the glazing.
With the DCC ready chassis they extended the light tube so that it extends and bends down, right in front of the surface mount LED which sits back on the drop-in chip.
If you can find these new glazing they are also interchangeable into the old shells.


Thanks for the tip.

Will have to check with Kato on the availability of the revised light prism.

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Re: Will 1st Generation Kato U30C Shell Work With Current DCC Friendly Chassis
« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2017, 08:02:45 PM »
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Thanks for the tip.

Will have to check with Kato on the availability of the revised light prism.

Sure.

What's worked for me was I had several older Rock Island units that were DC.
I've picked up over time some newer DCC U30C's and C30-7's, swapped the mechanisms and and the glazing then resold the old chassis with the newer shell and the old light tube.

So far I haven't needed to buy any parts.

This might work for you?

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Re: Will 1st Generation Kato U30C Shell Work With Current DCC Friendly Chassis
« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2017, 10:43:50 PM »
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Sure.

What's worked for me was I had several older Rock Island units that were DC.
I've picked up over time some newer DCC U30C's and C30-7's, swapped the mechanisms and and the glazing then resold the old chassis with the newer shell and the old light tube.

So far I haven't needed to buy any parts.

This might work for you?


Thanks for the suggestion.

Although my situation is slightly different, your brilliant idea would work perfectly for me.

Had actually forgotten that Kato's U30c and C30-7 locomotives share the same chassis.

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Re: Will 1st Generation Kato U30C Shell Work With Current DCC Friendly Chassis
« Reply #8 on: December 01, 2017, 02:11:27 AM »
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Trucks and fuel tank swap over also

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Re: Will 1st Generation Kato U30C Shell Work With Current DCC Friendly Chassis
« Reply #9 on: December 01, 2017, 11:03:23 AM »
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Trucks and fuel tank swap over also

Was wondering about that...

Thanks for the additional info.

Knowing this will make retrofitting my legacy units much cheaper.