New Kato Web Poll - "NYC 20th Century Limited" and "SP Lark" options

[PiperguyUMD]

Being a WM steam guy, I look at these things in terms of what parts might be available for kitbashing/scratch-building. The Hudson would make some cool things available, but what did the SP use to pull the 1941ish Lark?  Was that a GSx - 4-8-4?

[up1950s]

I'm a steam guy through and through, but after being in NYC Hickory Creek this summer, the 1948 version would rock with e-units would rock! But who says it has to be e-units? How about a Niagra?

Why do we get so many last call shots lately ( bottoms up )

[RBrodzinsky]

Being a WM steam guy, I look at these things in terms of what parts might be available for kitbashing/scratch-building. The Hudson would make some cool things available, but what did the SP use to pull the 1941ish Lark?  Was that a GSx - 4-8-4?

Yep

[chesapeake490]

I vote for a C&O streamlined Hudson and a set of Chessie passenger cars !!

[peteski]

I vote for a C&O streamlined Hudson and a set of Chessie passenger cars !!

Go right ahead! 

[Englewood]

More Shinkansen!

But I'll take the newer Lark.

[Bobster]

Greetings,

I would have liked to have seen the original Rock island 4 car  Rocket with a TA. 

Having said that Kato is already partway to a SP/RI Golden State.  Kato already makes E-8's,  6-6-4 sleepers, 4-4-2 sleepers, and a diner from their CBQ set is a match for Yucca, Sahuaro, and Ocotillo. (I hope I spelled them correctly).  Even Bachmann makes observation LaMirada.  Who know how many of the old Rivarossi RI Golden State 820's, a couple RI coaches,  and Golden Vista/Golden Divan observations were sold as anything but what they actually were.   It would be great to have the whole train from Kato rather than cobble together a later Rocket or Golden State from good cars and older cars.

Kato is also partway there with a Wabash Blue Bird.  E8 and 3 domes.  Still needs the baggage/lounge 650, Diner 51 and dome observation 1601, which is a near sister to the 2 domes on the Twin Cities Zephyr.  An E7 in this mix would give them the original Blue Bird.  I was hoping for a resin 1601 but I don't think that will ever happen.

Thank you all for letting me get that bit of frustration out, but I can still hope and dream.
Have a pleasant evening,
Bobster

[cjm413]

Greetings,

I would have liked to have seen the original Rock island 4 car  Rocket with a TA. 

Having said that Kato is already partway to a SP/RI Golden State.  Kato already makes E-8's,  6-6-4 sleepers, 4-4-2 sleepers, and a diner from their CBQ set is a match for Yucca, Sahuaro, and Ocotillo. (I hope I spelled them correctly).  Even Bachmann makes observation LaMirada.  Who know how many of the old Rivarossi RI Golden State 820's, a couple RI coaches,  and Golden Vista/Golden Divan observations were sold as anything but what they actually were.   It would be great to have the whole train from Kato rather than cobble together a later Rocket or Golden State from good cars and older cars.

Kato is also partway there with a Wabash Blue Bird.  E8 and 3 domes.  Still needs the baggage/lounge 650, Diner 51 and dome observation 1601, which is a near sister to the 2 domes on the Twin Cities Zephyr.  An E7 in this mix would give them the original Blue Bird.  I was hoping for a resin 1601 but I don't think that will ever happen.

Thank you all for letting me get that bit of frustration out, but I can still hope and dream.
Have a pleasant evening,
Bobster

Kato's observation would be appropriate for the 1938 20th Century Limited, post-1956 National Limited, or post-1941 Lark.

[bbussey]

I just voted for diesel-era 20th Century and heavyweight Lark. Both are losing badly. 

[nscalbitz]

I just voted for diesel-era 20th Century and heavyweight Lark. Both are losing badly. 

Contrarians sometimes win, but I'd see this as fact gathering, not a popularity vote, as they'll surely expect skewed numbers...... 
dave

[thomasjmdavis]

"Even Bachmann makes observation LaMirada."

Sorry Bobster, but I think you are mistaken.  Bachmann makes of model of what La Miranda might have looked like if it had been built by Budd instead of Pullman Standard.  No idea why they did what they did- there were plenty of Budd obs prototypes if they wanted to make a Budd obs, or they could have made an accurate model of the PS prototype, but for whatever reason, they put the PS window pattern on a Budd car.

But if Kato wants to make an accurate La Miranda, that could solve the problem.  And even though I don't have any plans to model Rock Island trains, a Kato built Rocket, large or small, would be hard to pass up.

[peteski]

Contrarians sometimes win, but I'd see this as fact gathering, not a popularity vote, as they'll surely expect skewed numbers...... 
dave

Think what you want but the fact is that the Dreyfus Hudson came on top (or close 2nd) in Kato's summer poll which gave a choice of several steam locos, and now they have another poll which includes that Hudson and its matching train (which so far seems to be very popular with voters). Unlike what happened with the last presidential polls, I think this one seems to show a strong possibility that the Hudson and 20th Century Ltd. might actually be produced.  I'm wishing and hopping. I don't specifically model NYC, but I think that is it one handsome looking train!    I love to get my hands on one.

[OHCR 4218]

I sure would like to see the Powhatan Arrow, Chessie, or Cresson

[Brian M]

Think what you want but the fact is that the Dreyfus Hudson came on top (or close 2nd) in Kato's summer poll which gave a choice of several steam locos, and now they have another poll which includes that Hudson and its matching train (which so far seems to be very popular with voters). Unlike what happened with the last presidential polls, I think this one seems to show a strong possibility that the Hudson and 20th Century Ltd. might actually be produced.  I'm wishing and hopping. I don't specifically model NYC, but I think that is it one handsome looking train!    I love to get my hands on one.

I model the NYC in the late 40's, so one would think I'd automatically vote for the 1948 version of the Century with E units and the Creek Observations.  However, I believe N scale is long overdue for a modernized model of the Hudson, and my desire to have such a project done far out weighs my desire to have a complete 1948 version of the Century.  Besides, once Kato produces a 4-6-4 mechanism, I imagine the un-streamlined version of the engine would be a much stronger possibility of getting produced.  At the very least, detailing a Con-Cor shell and putting it on the Kato drive would be a good project.  And no matter what, we'll end up with a very good looking passenger train....

-Brian.

[peteski]

I model the NYC in the late 40's, so one would think I'd automatically vote for the 1948 version of the Century with E units and the Creek Observations.  However, I believe N scale is long overdue for a modernized model of the Hudson, and my desire to have such a project done far out weighs my desire to have a complete 1948 version of the Century.  Besides, once Kato produces a 4-6-4 mechanism, I imagine the un-streamlined version of the engine would be a much stronger possibility of getting produced.  At the very least, detailing a Con-Cor shell and putting it on the Kato drive would be a good project.  And no matter what, we'll end up with a very good looking passenger train....

-Brian.

That!  ^^^
And if they do produce the 1938 version and it sells well, depending on how many cars they can reuse, they might come out with the later version of the train with diesel locos.