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High Hood

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Timetable Question
« on: September 26, 2017, 04:23:53 PM »
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Hey everyone, I was looking at this L&N timetable in Ron Flanary's book on the Cumberland Valley Division, and I noticed next to the town names there were some other letters beside the usual A and L for arrive and leave. Would anyone know what the extra letters N C and E meant?

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Re: Timetable Question
« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2017, 05:52:33 PM »
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I don't think that means Arrival and Leave. That is noted in the times under the trains.
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Re: Timetable Question
« Reply #2 on: September 26, 2017, 06:17:27 PM »
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I don't have any L&N timetables, but in my C&EI timetables, those are reference notes.  Many of these notes are specific to CEI trains (such as "T stops to receive revenue passengers for Chicago"- indicating, I think, that there is a local coming shortly for passengers going to intermediate points).  Other than  F for Flag Stop, I doubt these notes were common between railroads, and might change year to year- so I think you would need to find a complete copy of the particular schedule to know what they represent.  When I checked an ACL schedule from the same time period, the notes were numbers rather that alphabet.
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Re: Timetable Question
« Reply #3 on: September 26, 2017, 08:34:41 PM »
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Agreed that you will need the L&N's key to puzzle this out.  But I think the letters are indicating properties of the stations - things like whether they were interlockings with personnel on duty, enginehouses, etc.
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Re: Timetable Question
« Reply #4 on: September 26, 2017, 08:51:00 PM »
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Hey everyone, I was looking at this L&N timetable in Ron Flanary's book on the Cumberland Valley Division, and I noticed next to the town names there were some other letters beside the usual A and L for arrive and leave. Would anyone know what the extra letters N C and E meant?
If it's anything like the timetable from 1958 in the following link, then the extra letters mostly correspond to notes describing various restrictions for carrying passengers between certain stations and/or on specific days.
http://www.lnrr.org/Magazine/Ln_passenger_timetable.pdf

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Re: Timetable Question
« Reply #5 on: September 26, 2017, 09:08:27 PM »
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My best guess would be tellegraph office codes... Indicating when the operators offices are open among other things...

They don't match the timetable facility codes im familiar with (ucor, gcor) and it appears L&N listed wyes and yard limits elsewhere...

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Re: Timetable Question
« Reply #6 on: September 27, 2017, 02:13:05 AM »
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If those were on a timetable from one of the Northwest roads they would be codes for various stuff.  In the 1967 "Consolidated Code of Operating Rules", which covered most northwest and upper Midwest roads, "C" meant a continuously manned office.  "N" and "E" aren't used, so what they would mean I have no idea.  The Hill Lines, at least, had a separate column for these, but there's nothing in the rule book requiring that.   "N" might mean "night", but that's just a wild guess.

What you need is a copy of the railroad rule book from the L&N, as it should list all of the codes. 
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Re: Timetable Question
« Reply #7 on: September 27, 2017, 02:22:37 PM »
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From other L&N timetables, the "NC" is for Train Order Offices that are open at certain times which are listed somewhere in the timetable. The "N" and "E" are common to all the L&N timetables, but I can't find any reference to what they mean.

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Re: Timetable Question
« Reply #8 on: September 28, 2017, 11:41:20 AM »
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The specific letter codes are completely different from the ones in Canadian rule books but there's usually symbols to indicate the locations of yard limits, wyes, crossovers (when two or more tracks), fuel (coal), water, train registers, dispatched phone, etc.

You'd need an appropriate L&N rule book to find the decoder key for the symbols in the LN timetables. It likely won't be in the timetable itself.

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Re: Timetable Question
« Reply #9 on: September 28, 2017, 10:07:10 PM »
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Thanks for the responses guys!