Can someone use a Spanish ALCO diesel for possible kitbash source?

[cjm413]

Could have still demoed them?

I know that the Waterloo Railroad had a GA8 on their property for testing in the 50's.


Jason

Alco did build a DL500 demonstrator that didn't have the second cab, but I don't know the extent that it operated outside of Spain.

More info is here (after letting Google translate it for me), also a B&W photo and color drawing:

http://www.escalan.es/showthread.php?tid=6124&pid=86737

[daniel_leavitt2000]

I ran into a Hornby/Arnold model of a RENFE Series 316 Diesel on DM-Toys website on sale for 110 Euro.  It has a strangely familiar look to it (especially the trucks). 



Some online research shows that it was made by ALCO!
https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serie_316_de_Renfe

Could it be used to model one of the American ALCOS?

Fairly close to trucks the White Pass used on their Alcos:

Just 20 inches too wide.

[peteski]

http://www.spookshow.net/loco/ibertrenalco.html

That model was from IBERTREN. While it is the same locomotive,  the Arnold model is all new tooling.

I've wanted to dabble in Australian Railroading and never knew these existed...wow...where's my check book.
Joe

Well, this is a new release, so other than the older crude IBERTRAN model, that model was not available in the past.  If you are interested in Australian N scale, there are few members here from Australia and IIRC, they model Australian RR in N scale. I'm sure there are more N scale models of Australian locos and rolling stock available.

@peteski any info on the truck wheelbase in feet?

Sorry John - I don't.

[wcfn100]

Same engine?

https://www.therailwire.net/forum/index.php?topic=31963.0


Jason

[peteski]

Same engine?

https://www.therailwire.net/forum/index.php?topic=31963.0


Jason

Sure looks like it!

[nkalanaga]

Leggy:  No prototype American railroad had one, but there's no reason an American railroad couldn't have. 

daniel_leavitt2000:  Probably are the same.  Since Alco built the DL535 in both standard and 3ft gauges, and possibly others, with what looks like the same trucks, I suspect they're a standard Alco truck.  While the WP&Y's were DL535Es, and the NdeM's DL535s, the major difference is that the Mexican units had high hoods, and were standard gauge.  The DL535 could be regauged for anything from 3ft to 5ft6in, and seems to have used the same sideframes for all of  them.  I believe Spain had some in both narrow (meter?) and wide gauges.

[Leggy]

I've wanted to dabble in Australian Railroading and never knew these existed...wow...where's my check book.

Joe

Don't waste your time with something incorrect when the proper one is coming:
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1851715821709360&id=1665654583648819

Could have still demoed them?

I know that the Waterloo Railroad had a GA8 on their property for testing in the 50's.


Jason

Demos never existed here pre privatisation.

[wes_sutton]

Don't waste your time with something incorrect when the proper one is coming:
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1851715821709360&id=1665654583648819

I was wondering what had happened to those 

Although at the price I think they are coming out at, I doubt I'll be able to recreate scenes like this.

Tailem Bend bound by Bingley Hall, on Flickr

[cjm413]

That model was from IBERTREN. While it is the same locomotive,  the Arnold model is all new tooling.

Well, this is a new release, so other than the older crude IBERTRAN model, that model was not available in the past.  If you are interested in Australian N scale, there are few members here from Australia and IIRC, they model Australian RR in N scale. I'm sure there are more N scale models of Australian locos and rolling stock available.

Sorry John - I don't.

Those Ibertren models with the Paella cutters may be why the Hornby/Ibertren models looked familiar to you.

[Dave V]

Slap some pantographs and some DGLE (Brunswick Green) paint with a couple of Scotchlight keystones on that and it almost looks like a PRR E2c experimental:

[nickelplate759]

I want them to paint it like this:



A.302 is a restored unit.

George

[nkalanaga]

Dave:  I've often thought about putting pans on my ancient Arnold/Rapido FA-whatevers and making E2bs.  The oversized wheels should work fine, and they did test on the GN for a while.

[FrankCampagna]

Imagine some country ordered these. The order is cancelled. Coup, new government, whatever. Some domestic railroad(s) might be able to acquire these cheap. Many railroads were interested in cheap. I could see Jersey Central buying these. They had double ended commuter engines. These could do commuter service weekdays and head up Scranton freights on weekends.

[cjm413]

Dave:  I've often thought about putting pans on my ancient Arnold/Rapido FA-whatevers and making E2bs.  The oversized wheels should work fine, and they did test on the GN for a while.

I assume you've already hacked up a pair of ancient EMD F shells for GN 5011:





After GN 5011 was sold to PRR, one of the cabs was used to repair a wrecked FP7:

[nkalanaga]

CJM413:  No, because I don't need GN electrics, but I did do the same thing with a Kato EF58 to make a "Baby Joe" for my MILW interchange. 

I knew that the PRR used 5011 for parts, but didn't know that one of the cabs was reused.  Imagine, taking an F-unit cab off a "kitbashed" electric and putting it on an F-unit!

Frank:  That's exactly how the MILW and South Shore got their Little Joes, so it's certainly a plausible scenario for a freelancer.