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Re: Baton Rouge Southern 3.0 - a Design discussion
« Reply #285 on: May 30, 2023, 03:23:16 PM »
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I wouldn't expect the workbench to have heavier loads then the layout portion.  SO why the more robust build?
I would, at least for me.    I put heavy-ish tools on it, and also hammer, file and otherwise lean into it.  I want it to be pretty rigid, and not bouncy.  I'm not so rough on the layout itself.
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Re: Baton Rouge Southern 3.0 - a Design discussion
« Reply #286 on: May 30, 2023, 03:32:00 PM »
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I would, at least for me.    I put heavy-ish tools on it, and also hammer, file and otherwise lean into it.  I want it to be pretty rigid, and not bouncy.  I'm not so rough on the layout itself.

This is actually fascinating to me - I don't have what I'd consider heavy tools in the layout space - aside from my airbrush compressor which sits on the floor. Very occasionally I bring in a drill for benchwork/wiring considerations. I don't have even a small vise on the bench,a nd I find applying a hammer to my models never goes well.  Thanks for the food for thought.
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Re: Baton Rouge Southern 3.0 - a Design discussion
« Reply #287 on: May 30, 2023, 10:58:27 PM »
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This is actually fascinating to me - I don't have what I'd consider heavy tools in the layout space - aside from my airbrush compressor which sits on the floor. Very occasionally I bring in a drill for benchwork/wiring considerations. I don't have even a small vise on the bench,a nd I find applying a hammer to my models never goes well.  Thanks for the food for thought.

Good point.  I pile a lot of tools on my workbench, compared to the weight on the layout, but the heaviest is no more than a Panavise or Dremel drill press.  I do use it for small non-model work, and hammering, etc. is really something I do from time to time.  I don't like a bouncy workbench.   

That said, 6' isn't a horribly long span, so I'd recommend trying it with legs in the corner.  If it's too bouncy, then it can be stiffened  with 1.5" metal angle (run the full width of the span) and/or some sturdy 90-degree braces (like shelf brackets - NOT simple 90" bent-metal angle brackets).
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Re: Baton Rouge Southern 3.0 - a Design discussion
« Reply #288 on: May 30, 2023, 11:25:00 PM »
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I used Ikea Omar shelves as the legs for my workbench. Bonus: they give you shelves.
These might work for you:

https://www.ikea.com/us/en/p/omar-shelf-unit-galvanized-00069768/

I love me some IKEA but my closest one is Atlanta.
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Re: Baton Rouge Southern 3.0 - a Design discussion
« Reply #289 on: May 31, 2023, 08:23:17 AM »
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There’s one in Memphis Phil, but it’s probably still a decently long drive up there for you.
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Re: Baton Rouge Southern 3.0 - a Design discussion
« Reply #290 on: May 31, 2023, 09:07:17 AM »
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There’s one in Memphis Phil, but it’s probably still a decently long drive up there for you.

It is about 6 Hours.  Atlanta is 7.  There's a Houston one as well, at 8 hours.  I miss the 20 minutes to College Park.
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Re: Baton Rouge Southern 3.0 - a Design discussion
« Reply #291 on: May 31, 2023, 10:43:26 AM »
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I love me some IKEA but my closest one is Atlanta.


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Re: Baton Rouge Southern 3.0 - a Design discussion
« Reply #292 on: May 31, 2023, 11:32:40 AM »
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I did, to Memphis. Lasted about two years before the crime just went bananas.  :scared:
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Re: Baton Rouge Southern 3.0 - a Design discussion
« Reply #293 on: May 31, 2023, 01:26:21 PM »
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If 18" is a functional depth for the work bench, then go to your local ReStore/Goodwill/Salvation Army store and find an old student desk.  Push it into position, then build the layout shelf so it's supported by the desk.  That's the solution I came up with for the Retro Rig.


The support isn't even attached to the layout or the desk.  I built a stand in the shape of an asymmetric "H" out of 1/2" plywood, which was wide enough to support the hollow core door at four points on the door frame.  The H framed had the added benefit of providing a "backstop" for the work surface, so those pesky little N scale bits weren't forever disappearing over the back of the desk.  I think my desk is about 22" deep (it's in storage at the moment, so not available for analysis) so your 18" deep layout shelf could work just fine, and be supported by a well crafted "U" shaped rack.  A couple of metal angle brackets would do the trick to secure everything in place free of the cubicle wall, and provide enough stability to make your lift bridge work for the roundy round route.

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Re: Baton Rouge Southern 3.0 - a Design discussion
« Reply #294 on: June 04, 2023, 05:07:39 PM »
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A 6’8” HCD will sag, even with the legs set in from the end a little.  It doesn’t take much of a sag to cause your free-rolling freight cars to roll away.  However, apply a Masonite fascia along the sides, and that can act as the web in an I-beam.

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Re: Baton Rouge Southern 3.0 - a Design discussion
« Reply #295 on: June 13, 2023, 06:30:30 AM »
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Did you solve the riddle yet?
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Re: Baton Rouge Southern 3.0 - a Design discussion
« Reply #296 on: June 13, 2023, 10:19:54 AM »
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Did you solve the riddle yet?

No - the doors in the attic I had intended to use are 16 in doors not 18, and that extra two inches make a difference with the track plan I have.  I am working on ripping plywood for l-shaped legs that can screw into the edges of the doors once acquired.  Which, considering the state of may garage, is its own fools errand.  :facepalm:
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Re: Baton Rouge Southern 3.0 - a Design discussion
« Reply #297 on: June 13, 2023, 11:01:43 AM »
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I've been using an HCD for my workbench for, probably, close to 10 years. It hasn't sagged on me, and it has TONS of crap piled on it.

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Re: Baton Rouge Southern 3.0 - a Design discussion
« Reply #298 on: June 13, 2023, 11:15:02 AM »
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I've been using an HCD for my workbench for, probably, close to 10 years. It hasn't sagged on me, and it has TONS of crap piled on it.

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Re: Baton Rouge Southern 3.0 - a Design discussion
« Reply #299 on: June 13, 2023, 12:46:32 PM »
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No - the doors in the attic I had intended to use are 16 in doors not 18, and that extra two inches make a difference with the track plan I have.  I am working on ripping plywood for l-shaped legs that can screw into the edges of the doors once acquired.  Which, considering the state of may garage, is its own fools errand.  :facepalm:

Could you rip a Tuba-Four to add the extra 2 inches to the edge of the doors? the frame of a HCD should accept screws easily enough.
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