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Union Pacific early challenger drawings needed!
« on: July 04, 2016, 02:16:05 PM »
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Does anyone by chance have drawings of the UP 3800 class early challengers in their books? I need dimensions for the tender to work off of. This is not the same class as the later challengers like 3985.
This will be the next tender made out of mdf like my turtle back tendered 2-10-2. Hey Bob Gilmore, do you have them?

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Re: Union Pacific early challenger drawings needed!
« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2016, 03:20:14 PM »
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I think the information you seek may be in this book:

http://uphs-store.myshopify.com/collections/uphs-prototype-steam-locomotive-photo-books/products/vol-35?variant=11141528583

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Re: Union Pacific early challenger drawings needed!
« Reply #2 on: July 04, 2016, 03:23:19 PM »
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  I think I have what you need. I'll have to look for it. I also have some boiler shells for you to look at when you come up in a couple of weeks.
Rodney

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Re: Union Pacific early challenger drawings needed!
« Reply #3 on: July 04, 2016, 03:43:34 PM »
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Rodney, I'll call you shortly.
Bob, I believe those are just photo books. Im looking for complete blue prints to scale a model off of.

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I want a 3800 class santa fe 2-10-2!
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Re: Union Pacific early challenger drawings needed!
« Reply #4 on: July 04, 2016, 04:18:44 PM »
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Adam, you mean this one?
I think I have drawings if Rodney doesn't, bu you'll have to wait till I come back from my trip.
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Re: Union Pacific early challenger drawings needed!
« Reply #5 on: July 04, 2016, 04:59:33 PM »
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That's definitely it Otto! I'll let you know. On another note otto, George holwedel and I are working on something you might like!
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I want a 3800 class santa fe 2-10-2!
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Re: Union Pacific early challenger drawings needed!
« Reply #6 on: July 08, 2016, 01:50:43 AM »
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Does anyone by chance have drawings of the UP 3800 class early challengers in their books? I need dimensions for the tender to work off of. This is not the same class as the later challengers like 3985.
This will be the next tender made out of mdf like my turtle back tendered 2-10-2. Hey Bob Gilmore, do you have them?

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Adam @draskouasshat , Sorry, I SHOULD have drawings for the early Challenger, but I don't.  However, if you're interested in only the tender, I have several references dealing with UP tenders I'll look at...however, I'm almost sure the references are photos, not scale drawings.

Cheerio!
Bob Gilmore

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Re: Union Pacific early challenger drawings needed!
« Reply #7 on: July 08, 2016, 09:50:36 AM »
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  Hey Adam, go ahead and have Otto send you what he has as I still can't find them. I know when we talked about these several years ago, I had them laid out.
Rodney

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Re: Union Pacific early challenger drawings needed!
« Reply #8 on: July 08, 2016, 08:15:47 PM »
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Rodney, I'll call you tonight.

Bob, thanks for looking! I figured you'd have them! Lol

Otto, the balls in your court! You're the last hope for this project!

Thanks everyone for digging through your material!

Adam Draskovich
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I want a 3800 class santa fe 2-10-2!
I want a 3800 class santa fe 2-10-2!
I want a 3800 class santa fe 2-10-2!
I want a 3800 class santa fe 2-10-2!
I want a 3800 class santa fe 2-10-2!
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Re: Union Pacific early challenger drawings needed!
« Reply #9 on: July 09, 2016, 01:21:01 AM »
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Adam, you got it, but as I told you, I'm still on the road...
Otto

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Re: Union Pacific early challenger drawings needed!
« Reply #10 on: July 09, 2016, 02:17:31 AM »
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Adam, I found some very crude drawings, with basic measurements for the "Baby" Challenger...and the tenders...both the first and second run.  What are you looking for exactly?

I also found some very clear prototype photos of various angles of that tender, as well as some good photos of an HO model of the tender, top, bottom, front, back and both sides.  Will those help?

Let me know and I'll put it together for you tomorrow evening.

Cheerio!
Bob Gilmore

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Re: Union Pacific early challenger drawings needed!
« Reply #11 on: July 09, 2016, 07:54:46 AM »
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Adam, you got it, but as I told you, I'm still on the road...
Otto

Man you really are on the road! Lol
Have fun!
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I want a 3800 class santa fe 2-10-2!
I want a 3800 class santa fe 2-10-2!
I want a 3800 class santa fe 2-10-2!
I want a 3800 class santa fe 2-10-2!
I want a 3800 class santa fe 2-10-2!
Modeling Cajon Pass in 1947

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Re: Union Pacific early challenger drawings needed!
« Reply #12 on: July 09, 2016, 07:57:44 AM »
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That would be fantastic Bob! I'm looking for tender height, width, truck spacing plus anything on top of those that I can reference and make sure this things right.

Thank you!

Adam Draskovich
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I want a 3800 class santa fe 2-10-2!
I want a 3800 class santa fe 2-10-2!
I want a 3800 class santa fe 2-10-2!
I want a 3800 class santa fe 2-10-2!
I want a 3800 class santa fe 2-10-2!
Modeling Cajon Pass in 1947