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unittrain

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Trainworx Stac Pac
« on: June 04, 2016, 07:44:19 AM »
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Just seen the cover of model railroad news and it says Trainworx presents Stac Pac in N, wonder if Pat is about to announce the flat cars for these?
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Re: Trainworx Stac Pac
« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2016, 08:16:14 AM »
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I'm afraid you've already missed them by several months. And no, he is not making flat cars for them. I asked him personally.
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Re: Trainworx Stac Pac
« Reply #2 on: June 04, 2016, 08:38:49 AM »
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Has anyone here modified existing flat cars to carry these loads? If so what did you do?
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Re: Trainworx Stac Pac
« Reply #3 on: June 04, 2016, 11:45:35 AM »
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Best I can gather its a complete scratchbuild.
They were designed for a low deck flatcar. I believe the only model of anykind came with the vertipac, which doesn't lend itself to a kitbash.

I stand to be corrected tho...
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Re: Trainworx Stac Pac
« Reply #4 on: June 04, 2016, 12:47:50 PM »
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I'm afraid you've already missed them by several months. And no, he is not making flat cars for them. I asked him personally.
Didn't miss the containers as I bought several when they came out, I just figured since they're mentioning them in a a magazine and a Stac Pac consists of more than just a container that it might have indicated a flat car release. If the magazine is just know mentioning the containers they're way behind. :D

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Re: Trainworx Stac Pac
« Reply #5 on: June 04, 2016, 12:48:31 PM »
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I used some MT COFC cars as stand-ins.  They fit well on the brackets that MT provides for containers, plus I put aome tacky putty underneath to keep them better secured.

As far as a more accurate car, I agree that's probably a scratch build.  Disappointing that Pat would say he's not doing it, hoped he would at least say maybe sometime but not soon.

You can find the stac-pacs online in a few places, I'm pretty sure, they are not sold out.  Try MBK and eBay, or just google.



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Re: Trainworx Stac Pac
« Reply #6 on: June 04, 2016, 01:29:29 PM »
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A couple good photos here showing how the deck on these cars sits lower than the coupler journal box.  The slot on the bottom of one end of the stac-pacs is for fitting over the journal box.
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=3122756
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=3122759

More photos of these cars here.
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/rsList.aspx?id=SP&rid=517300
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/rsList.aspx?id=SSW&rid=80300

It might be possible to kitbash from a BLMA car, but I don't know if that would be easier than scratchbuilding.  The BLMA car would be a better stand-in than the MT, actually.  N-scale kits also makes a version of the same car.

Most or all were later converted to more conventional tri-level autoracks.

Did any other railroads besides SP have these?
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Re: Trainworx Stac Pac
« Reply #7 on: June 04, 2016, 10:07:03 PM »
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Did any other railroads besides SP have these?

Santa Fe had some.


I purchased a drawing for the F89CH which is a lo-deck car, and it may just be something that cannot be mass produced N scale, or at least not without doing it the way the Vert-a-Pac is done as an integrated design with the containers.  The floor is simply too thin with no where to hide any extra support.

One more thing that I recently noticed, the F89CH trucks are on a 5'2" wheelbase which no one makes.  I need to check some other lo-deck drawings to see if other cars were like this.


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Re: Trainworx Stac Pac
« Reply #8 on: June 04, 2016, 10:54:36 PM »
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Best I can gather its a complete scratchbuild.
They were designed for a low deck flatcar. I believe the only model of anykind came with the vertipac, which doesn't lend itself to a kitbash.


And isn't built as a lo-deck car anyway.   The coupler is probably  2' (yes, feet) too low compared to the ends.  :P

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Re: Trainworx Stac Pac
« Reply #9 on: June 05, 2016, 12:20:13 AM »
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Santa Fe had some.

So did Trailer Train, as I just discovered.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/rrradioman/8597846735/in/photostream/

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I purchased a drawing for the F89CH which is a lo-deck car, and it may just be something that cannot be mass produced N scale, or at least not without doing it the way the Vert-a-Pac is done as an integrated design with the containers.  The floor is simply too thin with no where to hide any extra support.

One more thing that I recently noticed, the F89CH trucks are on a 5'2" wheelbase which no one makes.  I need to check some other lo-deck drawings to see if other cars were like this.

Jason

Well I guess we know who to ask for details if we want to try scratchbuilding!   :D

I agree about the Exactrail Vertipac, just looked at mine and it's not built as a low deck at all.  Maybe one could body mount MT 2004 couplers on it to avoid major surgery.  28" fox valley wheels too, I suppose.  This kind of thing might not be quite so easy or satisfying to get the Stac-Pac version since the coupler details are so much more visible.  Besides, the Exactrail Vertipacs are pretty rare and I wouldn't want to cut one up, let alone two for the containers I have.