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New MRC/MP moguls
« on: May 27, 2016, 10:13:46 AM »
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A new run of the Model Power Moguls, made by MRC, is listed at BLW. With sound!
 Joe D
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Re: New MRC/MP moguls
« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2016, 03:59:26 PM »
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Yep, and I managed to convince them to do Norfolk Southern; the first RTR NS steam in any scale.
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Re: New MRC/MP moguls
« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2016, 12:35:06 AM »
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I presume you mean the original NS? ;)
 4-4-0 Americans posted now too. NO undecs though.
 Also, Pete's got a sale on Bmann 10 wheelers!
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Re: New MRC/MP moguls
« Reply #3 on: May 30, 2016, 11:13:02 AM »
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I'll be really curious just how "improved" these are. If they've solved the electrical pickup issues with the new all wheel tender pickups, I'll be tempted. (Presumably, the 16-bit MRC sound decoder is the same one as in their new 2-8-2's and while I'm no fan of past MRC decoders, my new mike runs remarkably well and sounds pretty good).
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Re: New MRC/MP moguls
« Reply #4 on: May 30, 2016, 11:15:13 AM »
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I feel a PRR D16sb coming on...!

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Re: New MRC/MP moguls
« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2016, 07:30:10 PM »
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I presume you mean the original NS? ;)
 4-4-0 Americans posted now too. NO undecs though.
 Also, Pete's got a sale on Bmann 10 wheelers!
 Joe D


Yep, original NS
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Re: New MRC/MP moguls
« Reply #6 on: May 30, 2016, 09:13:41 PM »
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Dave, are there many differences between the MP 4-4-0, and Pennsy/LIRR D16b? First MP loco I bought was LIRR 4-4-0. (was recalled, but fixed with Chris 333's tender truck swap. :D )
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Re: New MRC/MP moguls
« Reply #7 on: May 30, 2016, 09:15:26 PM »
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Dave, are there many differences between the MP 4-4-0, and Pennsy/LIRR D16b? First MP loco I bought was LIRR 4-4-0. (was recalled, but fixed with Chris 333's tender truck swap. :D )
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Yes, quite a few.  It's not the easiest kitbash.  For starters, it needs a square firebox.  The domes are arranged differently, the tender's different, etc.  Depends on how close you want to get.
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Re: New MRC/MP moguls
« Reply #8 on: May 31, 2016, 01:06:11 AM »
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Dave, are there many differences between the MP 4-4-0, and Pennsy/LIRR D16b? First MP loco I bought was LIRR 4-4-0. (was recalled, but fixed with Chris 333's tender truck swap. :D )
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Here ya go dude... yes, there were lots of changes.
http://forum.atlasrr.com/forum/topic.asp?ARCHIVE=true&TOPIC_ID=28132

I think I could do an overall neater job of it these days, but all the basic major changes are covered in that build thread.

The biggest challenge is that the Model Power boiler shells are made of un-penetratium.  It is some horribly hard metal that is hard to reshape
even with a Dremel and a cutting disk.  Filing is an exercise in madness.  So any boiler tweaks are ungodly hard on that engine.
Even drilling a bloody hole in it to mount a wire or a pipe is difficult.

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Re: New MRC/MP moguls
« Reply #9 on: May 31, 2016, 01:23:25 AM »
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TBH, I'm on the fence on this one...  4-4-0s were many decades removed from the Middle Division in my era, and I really don't have any period-correct equipment to pull with it (think P54 coaches, wooden boxcars, and class ND cabins).

But, like many here, I grew up with the 1223 and 7002 as regulars on the Strasburg Rail Road, and so the class D16sb has sentimental value.

If this were a closer match to a real D16sb, it'd be a no-brainer.  But as Max showed, this is a real beast of a kitbash.

I wonder if a Shapeways replacement boiler is even a remote possibility for this one...  @Lemosteam?    :D
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Re: New MRC/MP moguls
« Reply #10 on: May 31, 2016, 03:48:19 AM »
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Those boilers are a pain:

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Re: New MRC/MP moguls
« Reply #11 on: May 31, 2016, 07:49:07 AM »
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TBH, I'm on the fence on this one...  4-4-0s were many decades removed from the Middle Division in my era, and I really don't have any period-correct equipment to pull with it (think P54 coaches, wooden boxcars, and class ND cabins).

But, like many here, I grew up with the 1223 and 7002 as regulars on the Strasburg Rail Road, and so the class D16sb has sentimental value.

If this were a closer match to a real D16sb, it'd be a no-brainer.  But as Max showed, this is a real beast of a kitbash.

I wonder if a Shapeways replacement boiler is even a remote possibility for this one...  @Lemosteam?    :D

Might be a good candidate for my first metal design to print-  Probably very expensive though...  Then again I could design it hollow and pour some lead in there.

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Re: New MRC/MP moguls
« Reply #12 on: May 31, 2016, 01:03:04 PM »
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I feel a PRR D16sb coming on...!



Seems that within 5 posts most any locomotive thread goes Pennsy in this forum. Sheesh. For a bankrupt standard of the world, the SPFs have staying power.  :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:
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Re: New MRC/MP moguls
« Reply #13 on: May 31, 2016, 01:31:53 PM »
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             :|I pulled the trigger and reserved five of these new MP rereleases two 4-4-0's and three 2-6-0's.  There were so many nice road names that we will never see on N steam locos again like ACL , B&M, NS,  and I have a S*** pot of original run locos even undecs with the extra cabs, pilots, smoke boxes, so I went with a C B & Q American, an SP American, and GN, NP and UP 2-6-0's. I'm still thinking about another undec, but even at discounted prices my wallet even though they are on reserve, after purchasing Bachmann cars see several other posts and other items is all tapped out for awhile.  :|   Nate Goodman (Nato).

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Re: New MRC/MP moguls
« Reply #14 on: May 31, 2016, 01:49:01 PM »
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I may not bite on the 4-4-0, but on the other hand, the 2-6-0:



In 1905 the Colorado Midland, the Midland Terminal, and the Colorado Springs & Cripple Creek District Railway (i.e., the "Short Line") often borrowed each other's power.  It might be fun to run a Short Line mogul on my Midland layout.
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