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Micro-Trains announces Warren circus flatcars
« on: January 04, 2016, 09:48:03 AM »
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This one certainly caught me by surprise:

http://micro-trainsline.com/99301400

These are the 'right' circus flatcars to be using with those wagons, not shorties, not 50', not TTX flats.  The actual right cars.   Warren Car Company (which is still standing and operating today as Warren Railcar Services) built this cars from about 1915 through about 1928.    There is still ONE remaining Warren flat on the front of the James Strates Shows carnival train as the 'ramp car' on the front.

The Warren 70' flat was developed as the first steel oversize flatcar as railroads charged by the car - not by weight - for circus tariff moves, so the more wagons you could get on, the better.  These cars were the prototype for every intermodal flatcar that ever followed, and if you compare early PRR intermodal flats to these cars, you'll see the similarity.   See "The Circus moves by Rail" if you want to model this stuff.

There are a batch of these cars left at the Circus World Museum in Baraboo, WI.    At least one has trust plates from "Warren Savings Bank" still on it, and I can look out my office window and see that building across the street.   So I'm very excited about these cars.

Joe, thank you.   Now, what do I have to do to get a run of Cole Brothers Circus done?  FWIW, Cole Brothers was the local circus; the owner J. Augustus Jones lived right here in Warren, and while I can't prove it, was likely the developer and inventor of the steel circus Warren car.  He was also the president of the Warren Savings Bank.   In an extreme touch of irony, he was severely injured by kicks from a circus horse inside a stock car and later died of his injuries; he's buried here in town and his house is only a block from mine. 

I'm doing a one-man campaign to have Warren, PA marked as the home of the intermodal flatcar revolution as the home (both for the inventor and the manufacturer) of this car dating all the way back to 1915.
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Re: Micro-Trains announces Warren circus flatcars
« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2016, 10:20:06 AM »
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The cars were announced back in October with this first release.

http://micro-trainsline.com/nscale/npreorders/99301380

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Re: Micro-Trains announces Warren circus flatcars
« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2016, 12:02:28 PM »
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I too would like to model the Cole Bros. circus. Most people do not realize they were the second largest circus on the rails. To get these someone would have to purchase the name rights to produce these. I have resorted to custom decals to model the few that I have built. Decals were created by Circus Decals and nicely done!

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Re: Micro-Trains announces Warren circus flatcars
« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2016, 02:03:39 PM »
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I'm bugging Joe about it.    The story of our 'local guy' that appears to have been behind the entire circus car story is here; his name wasn't Cole but he licensed it.    I never realized all the local connections until a local railfan brought me back pictures of the cars at Baraboo - with the local bank trust plates still on them.   That one little clue pulled out a wealth of information:
http://www.circushistory.org/Bandwagon/bw-1977Mar.htm

Here's the one surviving Warren flatcar still in service on the Strates train today:  http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/rsPicture.aspx?id=211061

The fact that you can legitimately run this car behind a USRA 2-8-2 or an SD70MAC is not lost on me....

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Re: Micro-Trains announces Warren circus flatcars
« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2016, 05:59:44 PM »
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Like Jason said, this is an old (but still good news).  There was a discussion about this in early October: https://www.therailwire.net/forum/index.php?topic=37126
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Re: Micro-Trains announces Warren circus flatcars
« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2016, 04:04:33 PM »
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I hope they do some RBBB runner sets, like 10 at a time, I only need 40 flats

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Re: Micro-Trains announces Warren circus flatcars
« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2016, 06:41:23 PM »
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Rubber tired wagons/trailers would be nice if done right .


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Re: Micro-Trains announces Warren circus flatcars
« Reply #7 on: January 05, 2016, 06:47:56 PM »
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I hope they do some RBBB runner sets, like 10 at a time, I only need 40 flats
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