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Kisatchie

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Question About Southern Pacific Fruit Express Paint Scheme?
« on: October 13, 2015, 05:03:38 PM »
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Can anyone tell me when SPFE started using this scheme (as seen on this decal set):

http://www.ebay.com/itm/190952341258?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

I'm hoping it was used in 1971 or sooner.


Hmm... I'm guessing
1910...

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Re: Question About Southern Pacific Fruit Express Paint Scheme?
« Reply #1 on: October 13, 2015, 07:54:44 PM »
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Nope, again. SPFE marks came in 1978, when UP and SP dissolved the PFE partnership. Everything was PFE up to that point.
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Re: Question About Southern Pacific Fruit Express Paint Scheme?
« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2015, 08:10:22 PM »
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Quote from: C855B on October 13, 2015, 07:54:44 PM
Nope, again. SPFE marks came in 1978, when UP and SP dissolved the PFE partnership. Everything was PFE up to that point.

Rats. Thanks for the bad news.  :D


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and his bipolar disorder...

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Re: Question About Southern Pacific Fruit Express Paint Scheme?
« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2015, 08:17:25 PM »
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The split may have happened in '78 but the SPFE reporting marks may have started before that, but not as early as '71.

Here's a shot dated '73.

http://rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=3073078

Of course you can't always be sure of the dates listed, but Ron Hawkins has a good record, at least in my book.  He has another shot dated '75.

http://rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=3073079

He also has some freshly painted cars from '76.


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Re: Question About Southern Pacific Fruit Express Paint Scheme?
« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2015, 08:27:35 PM »
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Quote from: wcfn100 on October 13, 2015, 08:17:25 PM
The split may have happened in '78 but the SPFE reporting marks may have started before that, but not as early as '71.

I just realized that I got a set of the decals in question today from eBay. I checked them and the two SPFE cars have New dates of 1966 and 1969. Now I'm thoroughly confused.


Hmm... gotta consider
that Microscale NEVER
makes mistakes...

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Re: Question About Southern Pacific Fruit Express Paint Scheme?
« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2015, 08:31:10 PM »
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Aha... Jason, you made me look. The reporting mark split came in 1972 (possibly even as of 1/1/72), with the marks reflecting car ownership. The participating roads always owned the cars outright (including WP, for a short period!), but up until '72 they were all in a shared pool with just the PFE marks.

So even backing up from the '78 corporate split, Vincent is still out of luck... by a hair.
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Re: Question About Southern Pacific Fruit Express Paint Scheme?
« Reply #6 on: October 13, 2015, 08:33:46 PM »
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Quote from: Kisatchie on October 13, 2015, 08:27:35 PM
I just realized that I got a set of the decals in question today from eBay. I checked them and the two SPFE cars have New dates of 1966 and 1969. Now I'm thoroughly confused.


The cars could have been new in '66.  I don't fully understand what all the rules were, but once they went to the COTS panel for servicing dates and such, the "NEW' stencil wasn't updated any more.  So a car would say 'NEW' without ever getting changed to some sort of shop or reweigh date.  Maybe someone who models this era has better info.


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Re: Question About Southern Pacific Fruit Express Paint Scheme?
« Reply #7 on: October 13, 2015, 10:08:40 PM »
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Quote from: C855B on October 13, 2015, 08:31:10 PM
Aha... Jason, you made me look. The reporting mark split came in 1972 (possibly even as of 1/1/72), with the marks reflecting car ownership. The participating roads always owned the cars outright (including WP, for a short period!), but up until '72 they were all in a shared pool with just the PFE marks.

So even backing up from the '78 corporate split, Vincent is still out of luck... by a hair.


Hmm... anyone want to
buy some decals - cheap...?

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